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Brianna Wu is a transwoman and a passionate Democrat who wants people with gender dysphoria to be protected from discrimination and given access to sex reassignment medical treatments. But only if this treatment has proper safeguards, and is never offered to children. To achieve this compromise – a centrist position, Brianna argues – trans activists must get their house in order by marginalising the misogynists and the fetishists who have taken over the movement.

Today we discussed whether this is really possible. Is there a future in which trans activism is not at odds with feminism? Or is the backlash against this movement already too entrenched?

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Philosopher Kathleen Stock is careful about terminology in her new book. Her argument is not against assisted suicide, or euthanasia, but specifically against assisted death services. That is, "formal structures for helping consenting people to die with the aid of clinicians." It's these "formal structures", she argues, that end up transforming health services into something very different from what we're used to. Legalising assisted death services is often represented as progressive, freeing, and compassionate. But when we normalise this manner of death, and when we give the state power to control these death services, we risk crossing over into what Kathleen describes as a "moral darkness."

Kathleen is a contributing editor at UnHerd and the author of the bestselling 2021 book 'Material Girls.' Her new book is titled 'Do Not Go Gentle: The Case Against Assisted Death.'

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