畫畫一定要探討生死、探討人性，才能稱得上是「好藝術」嗎？ 在本集《Making It》中，我們邀請到香港畫家風漸 (Fung Jin)，一位在創作上展現極致「誠實」的藝術家。他拒絕用艱深晦澀的哲學理論來過度包裝作品，理直氣壯地宣告：「我就是喜歡畫靚嘢！」

風漸與我們分享了他非常獨特的自學歷程——從零開始，他透過 Photoshop 軟體中的「色調分離 (Posterize)」濾鏡，逆向拆解了人類幾百年來的油畫色彩邏輯。他將畫面看作地圖與等高線，像砌拼圖一樣，一步步建構出自己極具標誌性、既平面又立體的獨特畫風。同時，我們也深入探討了他畫筆下的香港風景，從長沙灣的平台花園到下午放學時熟悉的「煮飯味」，看他如何用畫布重組並保留這座城市的集體記憶。

此外，風漸對香港藝術市場有著敏銳的觀察。他指出市場正經歷前所未有的「透明化」，曾經神秘的畫廊如今大方貼上紅點與標價，藝術品正逐漸走入尋常百姓家。最後，對於數位創作浪潮，風漸提出了強而有力的反思：為什麼在 iPad 上作畫只是讓電腦「猜測」你的指令，永遠無法取代在真實紙張上手繪的靈魂連結？

如果你厭倦了藝術圈的過度包裝、對非傳統的自學方法感到好奇，或者懷念舊香港的城市溫度，風漸直白且純粹的藝術視角，絕對會讓你耳目一新。

🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:

CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: 誰是風漸？與《易經》卦象的淵源 05:15 - 自學之路：從 Photoshop 濾鏡中悟出油畫秘訣 14:30 - 重組記憶：長沙灣平台花園與消失的香港味道 25:40 - 藝術的誠實：為什麼畫「靚嘢」不需要用深奧理論包裝 35:10 - 香港藝術市場觀察：從神秘的畫廊到透明的紅點標價 42:20 - iPad vs 真實手繪：科技帶來的方便與失真 50:15 - 大館 Touch Gallery 最新聯展資訊分享

QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE: "我鍾意畫靚嘢嘅，咁我話畀人聽我畫靚嘢... 我唔需要話我呢個代表生死呀、呢個代表脆弱咩，我唔需要呢啲嘢㗎。我反而覺得而家係少咗啲咁誠實嘅嘢。" - Fung Jin "你用 iPad 嚟畫畫，同你畫喺實物上面係兩樣嘢嚟㗎，絕對係兩個概念！... 佢呢樣工具就係我畀個指令佢，佢『估』我諗乜嘢。" - Fung Jin "以前買一幅畫係好難想像嘅事... 但係而家好似個個都買到畫。以前外地畫廊都見唔到紅點... 咁而家甚至乎喺個 Caption 度會寫埋價錢。" - Fung Jin

ABOUT THE GUEST: 風漸 (Fung Jin) 是一位香港畫家，其筆名源自《易經》的「風山漸」卦。他以獨特的幾何解構手法與充滿通透感的畫風聞名。風漸從日常香港風景中汲取靈感，致力於將生活痕跡與城市記憶轉化為畫布上的永恆。他堅信藝術應該回歸誠實與純粹，拒絕過度概念化，並持續在實體創作中尋找最真實的連結。他的作品近期將於大館 Touch Gallery 展出。

ABOUT THE HOST: Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.

CONNECT WITH US: Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can an architect build a better world with a canvas instead of blueprints?

In this episode of Making it, we talk with Bernard, an architect with a 30-year career who recently moved into being a full-time artist.

From working on large projects like Hong Kong's Victoria Dockside to painting abstract pieces, Bernard uses both to create a sense of belonging. We explore his "Half Time" awakening during the pandemic. This reflection inspired him to leave his firm and focus entirely on his passion for art.

Bernard shares his unique practice of mixing care for nature with creativity. He reuses building samples, turning stone into sand for his canvases. His faith also influences his work, using colors to show unseen forces: white for the Almighty, yellow for the Spirit, blue for hope, and red for love. He also discusses his show at the CUHK Museum of Climate Change, where he paints icebergs in gold to show their value to our world.

Finally, we discuss Hong Kong's active art scene. Bernard shares his vision for a new autumn art festival to keep the city's creative energy going outside of the busy March season.

If you are considering a career change, care about climate change, or are curious about abstract painting, Bernard’s view on keeping creativity pure is a must-listen.

In this episode, we cover:

- The "Half Time" Pivot: The pandemic was a wake-up call for Bernard to switch to full-time art.

- Creating Belonging: Bernard sees buildings as functional sculpture. Public spaces like Victoria Dockside unite communities.

- Colors of Faith, Hope, and Love: There is deep meaning in his color choices. He uses blue to represent hope that carries us through dark times.

- Golden Icebergs: Glaciers are precious. Bernard uses gold paint to highlight them in his Museum of Climate Change show.

- Reusing Materials: Bernard turns old stone samples into sand for his art to support nature and avoid waste.

- A Vision for HK's Art Scene: Bernard suggests a new art fair in September or October to balance the March rush of Art Basel.

- Humanity vs. AI: We must protect our inner creativity. Bernard warns the next generation not to let their minds be spoiled by artificial intelligence.

Start listening to learn why art is a human necessity.

Chapters:

0:00 Intro: From 30 Years in Architecture to Full-Time Art

02:38 Architecture as Functional Sculpture and Victoria Dockside

07:45 The "Half Time" Pandemic Pivot

14:26 Climate Change and Our Responsibility to the Environment

18:00 The Abstract Colors of Faith, Hope, and Love

22:15 Painting Precious "Golden" Icebergs for CUHK

32:41 Reusing Building Samples into Canvas Texture

35:09 Hong Kong's Art Scene and a Pitch for an Autumn Fair

46:52 A Warning on AI and Why Art is a Necessity

Quotes from the episode:

"I look at building, not necessarily just as a commodity... I think it's a piece of functional sculpture that embody a lot of concept." - Bernard

"I believe art is not a luxury. It is a necessity for everybody." - Bernard

"Keep creating in your mind and keep pure with your thoughts and do it with passion." - Bernard

About the guest:

Bernard is an architect with over 30 years of experience who moved into being a full-time artist. His work explores climate change, social duty, and faith. He currently has a series on icebergs at the Museum of Climate Change at CUHK.

About the host:

Alex See is on a mission to help artists and creative people thrive in Hong Kong. Through Making it, Alex interviews the minds shaping culture to show what it takes to succeed in creative fields.

Connect with us:

Subscribe for more on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Why does someone who went to art school hesitate to call herself an artist?

In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Yvonne Chin, a creative who balances a full-time career in insurance with a deep passion for art and community. We dive into her journey from studying photography in college to creating digital illustrations and custom pet portraits that give back to local Hong Kong charities. Yvonne opens up about the complexities of her Asian American identity, the struggle of making friends as an adult, and why her ultimate goal isn't fame, but genuine human connection.

We also explore the Hong Kong art scene, discussing the need for more affordable art, adult open studio spaces, and why she believes art should be a mandatory subject in schools. If you’re a creative dealing with imposter syndrome, an introvert looking for community, or simply someone trying to be a little kinder to yourself, Yvonne’s story is exactly what you need to hear.

🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:

Start listening to find your community and create with intention.

CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Intro: Why Yvonne said yes to the podcast02:22 - Who is Yvonne Chin? (Insurance, dogs, and identity)

05:02 - Earliest art memories and pivoting to photography in art school

10:30 - Navigating her Asian American identity

13:58 - Art as a love language and giving back to charity

18:27 - 10-year vision and learning to oil paint

24:50 - The creative process behind custom pet portraits

36:01 - Commercial art vs. passion in Hong Kong

39:54 - The need for affordable art and adult classes in HK

44:40 - Why art should be a mandatory subject

49:07 - Final message: Be kind to yourself

QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:

"I made it a habit to introduce myself as a person versus my career. But I am an artist." - Yvonne Chin

"All it takes is asking. Everyone wants to help, but not everyone has an avenue to do it." - Yvonne Chin

"I think you should be kind to yourself. I think that's the way everyone should go through life." - Yvonne Chin

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Yvonne Chin is an artist and creative based in Hong Kong who bridges her art with philanthropy. Educated in photography at art school, she currently works in insurance but dedicates her creative energy to digital illustration, pet portraits, and product design, often donating the proceeds to local charities.

ABOUT THE HOST:

Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.

CONNECT WITH US:

Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

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在本集《Making It》中，我們邀請到了風格直率、不拘一格的視覺藝術家 Man Ling。Man Ling 的藝術之路充滿了傳奇色彩——從小時候單純熱愛畫畫，到誤打誤撞闖入紐約藝術圈，再到回歸香港長洲，向隱世高人「王伯」學習打破傳統的書法技藝。

Man Ling 對於「學院派」與「傳統」有著極具顛覆性的看法。他分享了為什麼畫畫對他來說不是為了追求美，而是一種「救命」的自我治療過程。我們深入探討了他如何將廢棄的書法練習紙重組，創造出如火燒般的重生美學。

更重要的是，Man Ling 對香港藝術家提出了極其務實（甚至有些刺耳）的建議。他直言藝術家必須放下「清高」，學會像生意人一樣思考，並在申請政府資助時收起怨氣，懂得迎合遊戲規則。這是一場關於藝術、生存與真實自我的深度對話。

如果你是一個在體制與創作自由之間掙扎的藝術家，或者想知道如何在幾天內掌握原本需要十年苦練的書法心法，Man Ling 的故事絕對不容錯過。

🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:

開始收聽，學會如何在藝術與現實中生存。

CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: 誰是 Man Ling?03:49 - 藝術作為自我治療：在這個時代被遺忘的功能16:26 - 誤闖紐約：從漫畫到抽象表現主義的震撼教育36:40 - 長洲奇遇：隱世高人「王伯」與打破常規的書法42:23 - 「忘我」的境界：當你腦中一片空白，畫作才是最真實的45:18 - 拼貼重生：賦予廢棄書法新生命的創作過程54:45 - 給香港藝術家的忠告：學會做生意，放下藝術家的身段59:26 - 關於政府資助：收起怨氣，懂得迎合才能生存01:07:08 - 尋找你的根：為什麼了解東方文化比模仿西方更重要

QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE: "最重要是那樣東西可以治療自己... 當你忘記自我，沒有了空白一片去畫畫，你畫到的東西是最真實的。" - Man Ling "我覺得香港的藝術家，他們要學一樣的事就是... 首先你也要讓自己，有種生意的人的心態... 因為你的作品和市場價值，其實是兩件事。" - Man Ling "你知不知道筆可以卷的？筆卷的話你做到的事，很多不可能做到的事，你都可以做到。" - Man Ling

ABOUT THE GUEST: Man Ling 是一位香港視覺藝術家，以其獨特的拼貼藝術與融合東西方哲學的創作風格聞名。早年遊歷紐約學習西方抽象藝術，後回歸香港長洲，師從民間高人探索傳統書法的創新邊界。Man Ling 將藝術視為一種自我治療與修行的過程，作品常流露出一種經歷火煉後的重生感。

ABOUT THE HOST: Alex See 致力於將香港打造成藝術家和創意人能夠茁壯成長的地方。透過《Making It》，Alex 採訪塑造文化的思想領袖，揭示在創意產業中取得成功的關鍵。

CONNECT WITH US: 訂閱以獲取更多關於創意和香港藝術圈的對話！📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can a 12-year-old artist master multiple mediums and find inspiration in everything from microorganisms to ghost stories?

In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Arthus, a 12-year-old artist whose creative journey started as an infant by putting his hands and feet in paint. Growing up with parents who are both art teachers, Arthus explores a vast array of mediums, including 3D modeling, animation, digital art, and upcycling CDs.

We dive deep into his imaginative world, exploring his "Snake Overload" collection, which features everything from a digital origami snake in space to a malfunctioning electrical snake. Arthus explains how he turns everyday learning—like discovering the terrifying reality of microscopic water bears —into his art. He also shares his experience collaborating with international creator "The French Girl" to design a unique double-heart snake.

If you want to see how the next generation approaches creativity, learning, and stepping out of their comfort zone, Arthus’s fearless mindset and advice to "be more confident" is essential listening.

🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:

CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation

01:40 - Meet Arthus: The 12-year-old artist

05:05 - First art memories and growing up with artist parents

06:49 - A day in the life: Balancing homework and learning fun facts

07:32 - Turning microscopic cells and "water bears" into art

09:05 - Current projects: 3D animating chess pieces

11:20 - Collaborating with The French Girl on a double-heart artwork

13:33 - Exploring the "Snake Overload" collection

17:53 - Creating the "Snake Overload Adventures" for a bar exhibition

21:50 - Future goals: Traveling the world to learn more

25:19 - Advice to his 5-year-old self: Be more confident

QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:

"I love learning things because it teaches me so much more about the world around me." - Arthus

"Be more confident. You will do great things if you are confident." - Arthus

ABOUT THE GUEST: Arthus is a 12-year-old artist based in Hong Kong who works across physical, digital, and 3D mediums. Inspired by the world around him, history, and science, he is the creator of the "Snake Overload" universe and has showcased his work in international exhibitions.

ABOUT THE HOST:

Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.

CONNECT WITH US:

Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

在本集《Making It》中，我們邀請到了著名陶藝家、教育家及大館 Touch Gallery 的創辦人 Anders Wong（黃森）。Anders 是一位不僅僅停留在技法，更深入探討藝術哲學的思想者。

從大學時期的迷惘，到經歷三年每天在 Starbucks 苦讀哲學書的「閉關修煉」，Anders 分享了他如何參透「色即是空，空即是色」，並將這種「無形」的概念轉化為他在陶藝創作與教學上的獨特心法。他坦言自己以前也是個會問「藝術是什麼」的學生，但現在他的腦袋轉速比常人快三倍，因為他學會了打破框架。

我們深入探討了他如何在大館運營三個展示空間，將生活與藝術結合，以及他如何透過「頌缽」與社區項目（如疫情期間的許願陶鈴）來療癒人心。Anders 更展現了香港人特有的「不死精神」，分享了他如何在昂貴的租金與高壓環境下，依然堅持推動本土藝術發展。

如果你是一位在創作路上感到迷惘的藝術家，或是對如何平衡藝術追求與商業生存感興趣的聽眾，Anders 充滿智慧與禪意的分享絕對能為你帶來新的啟發。

🎧 本集精彩亮點：

開始收聽，打破你對藝術的既定認知。

CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: 誰是 Anders Wong?01:45 - 星期二、三的堅持：在繁忙中保持純真06:08 - 在畫廊裡做 Studio：拉近大師與學生的距離16:47 - 三年哲學苦讀：參透「色即是空」的轉捩點25:52 - 聲音的藝術：原來家裡的飯碗也能演奏？29:58 - 疫情下的藝術力量：陶鈴與回家吃飯碗41:26 - 香港藝術家的特質：租金壓力下的「不死精神」44:28 - 給政府的建議：如何零成本打造藝術城市？49:12 - 人者無敵：Kindness 作為人生與藝術的最高指導

QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE: "到了三年之後你突然覺得，什麼都是，什麼都不是... 我覺得我的腦子是走快了三倍的。" - Anders Wong "香港獨特之處是很簡單的，就是我們是不死的... 因為我們每天要承擔的是很昂貴的租金很昂貴的人工，所以你是不能輸的。" - Anders Wong "其實藝術就是一個無形的東西，你懂得去玩弄他，其實他可以是任何東西，是變形蟲。" - Anders Wong

ABOUT THE GUEST: Anders Wong（黃森）是一位香港資深陶藝家及藝術教育者。他不僅是 Touch Gallery 的創辦人，更進駐大館推動當代陶瓷藝術與生活美學。擁有深厚的藝術與哲學背景，Anders 擅長以跨界思維引導學生，並致力於透過展覽、教學與慈善活動，將藝術融入大眾生活。

ABOUT THE HOST: Alex See 致力於將香港打造成藝術家和創意人能夠茁壯成長的地方。透過《Making It》，Alex 採訪塑造文化的思想領袖，揭示在創意產業中取得成功的關鍵。

CONNECT WITH US: 訂閱以獲取更多關於創意和香港藝術圈的對話！📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Michael Rothling, a "2.0 Entrepreneur" who defies every corporate stereotype. A toy company CEO who took over the family business at 23, Michael blends the disciplined business acumen of his German father with the explosive, fashionable flair of his Italian mother.

From tufting rugs to utilizing AI for "Brain Rot" trends, Michael approaches business as a performance art. We dive deep into his philosophy of "Self Branding"—why he deliberately dresses in loud, pink outfits to sell emotion and experience rather than just products. Michael opens up vulnerably about his past battles with bullying, severe acne, and a recent "dark tunnel" of depression, explaining how art became his weapon to find light again.

We also discuss the "Kidult" market revolution, why having enemies is actually a sign of success (and fuel for your fire), and his passionate defense of Hong Kong as the ultimate safe haven for international business.

If you are an entrepreneur trying to find your unique voice, or a creative navigating the intersection of commerce and art, Michael’s colorful, fearless approach to life and business is essential listening.

🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:

CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Intro: Who is Michael Roffling?

02:02 - The "Entrepreneur 2.0" & Mixing Toys with Art

05:24 - Inheriting a Legacy: The German Father & Italian Mother

11:36 - The Strategy of the "Paradise Bird" (Self-Branding)

13:12 - "Money gives you a better class of enemy"

14:43 - Art Process: Tufting, Splashing, and ChatGPT

28:00 - The Problem with "Toy Art" & Mass Production

38:43 - Childhood Trauma & The "Dark Tunnel" of Depression

46:58 - Advice to a 16-Year-Old: "Don't Give a Sh*t"

51:52 - Why Hong Kong is the Safest Hub for Creatives

56:04 - A Vision for HK: Attracting International Artists

QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:

"Money can't buy your friends, but it can give you a better class of enemy... I’m a fire. And if you put gasoline on the fire, it grows more up." - Michael Roffling

"I don't give a sh*t what other people think... It is not a rebellion. It is self-branding. It is self-security to go on the street dressed like this." - Michael Roffling

"I look at the toy in the aesthetic way, not into the emotional way... Yes, I am a Santa Claus... but I see toy more in aesthetic and how it's presented on the shelf." - Michael Roffling

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Michael Rothling is a Hong Kong-based toy industry entrepreneur and artist. Taking over his family's toy manufacturing business at a young age, he has evolved the company by integrating modern trends like the "Kidult" market and AI technology. He is also a practicing artist, utilizing mediums like tufting and splash art to express his vibrant, "Paradise Bird" persona and navigate mental health challenges.

ABOUT THE HOST:

Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.

CONNECT WITH US:

Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!

📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Is art just a decoration, or is it a historical record of a city disappearing before our eyes?

In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Rick Lo, a Hong Kong artist and lecturer who balances the "slash" life of being both a designer and a creative artist.

Rick’s work is a love letter to a Hong Kong that is fading fast. From capturing the iconic neon signs of the 80s to the nostalgic "Airplane Olive" throwers, Rick views his role not just as a creator, but as a historian capturing the city's fleeting moments. We explore his internal tug-of-war between his rational designer brain and his desire for artistic freedom, and his latest experiments with Chinese calligraphy to break his own rules.

If you are struggling to balance a full-time job with your creative passion, or want to understand the role of art as a "buffer" in a stressful society, this conversation is for you.

🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:

The "Slash" Identity: Navigating the blurry line between being a client-focused designer and an expressive artist.

The Historian's Mission: Why Rick feels a responsibility to "record everything before it fades out" in Hong Kong.

Art vs. Design: How he fights the urge to make everything logical and learns to embrace the spontaneous.

The Plane Window: The story behind his viral AR artwork that captures the emotion of leaving and returning to HK.

Buffering Society: Rick’s view that art isn't just about healing, but creating a necessary "buffer zone" for stressed citizens.

The Google Doc Habit: The surprisingly rigid way Henry tracks his life to create space for creativity.

Future of HK Art: Why integrating art into daily community life is more important than expensive museums.

Start listening to rediscover the city you live in.

CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Intro: Why artists need to share their stories

03:12 - Who is Rick Lo? (The Designer vs. Artist struggle)

08:26 - The "Commercial" Trap: Do people like it, or do I like it?

12:00 - Art Fairs vs. Galleries: Why strangers give the best feedback

16:40 - The "Plane Window" & "Hot Air Balloon": Capturing the migration wave

20:01 - Recording History: Why he paints neon lights & old Hong Kong

23:40 - "Airplane Olives": Nostalgia for a disappearing culture

32:05 - Visual Evolution: Moving from rigid lines to color and calligraphy

42:53 - The "Be Nice" Philosophy: Why kindness is a survival skill

46:00 - Advice to his 16-Year-Old Self: "Be Brave"

49:43 - The Google Doc: Tracking every moment of life since 2018

51:45 - Art as a "Buffer": The artist's role in Hong Kong society

54:22 - Opportunities & Challenges: Space, sponsorship, and community

QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:

"I don't want to use healing. I want to use buffering... Having the society to have a little bit of a sense of space to think of what the room to play with." - Rick Lo

"If a city doesn't have an artist, it is kind of like a nightmare. And everything will be boring and not fun at all." - Rick Lo

"You need to get rid of the life that you have probably, and then try something new... Be brave." - Rick Lo

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Rick Lo is a Hong Kong-based artist, designer, and lecturer. He is known for his digital artworks that capture the unique urban landscape of Hong Kong, from cyberpunk tram rides to nostalgic neon signages. Blending his background in design with artistic expression, Rick aims to record the shifting identity of the city, acting as a visual historian for a landscape that is constantly evolving.

ABOUT THE HOST:

Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.

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