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Married to the Startup

Married to the Startup

Written by: Alicia McKenzie
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Married to the Startup is a modern podcast where power couple, George and Alicia McKenzie, navigate the thrilling intersection of marriage, family, and entrepreneurship. With over a 15 years of partnership, this CEO and entrepreneurial coach duo share candid insights on building businesses while fostering a strong family unit.

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Episodes
  • First to Market and Still Lost
    Jan 26 2026

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    In Episode 60, Alicia and George unpack one of the most romanticized myths in entrepreneurship: being first to market guarantees success. Spoiler alert: it doesn’t.

    They break down why pioneers often build the category… and fast followers build the empires. From founders being emotionally attached to their “first baby” product, to massive corporations absorbing startups, to how second movers learn faster, iterate smarter, and scale quicker, this episode is a real-world masterclass in market dynamics.

    What we cover:

    • Why being first to market often means creating the market (and the struggle that comes with it)
    • The emotional trap founders fall into with their first product and why iteration feels like failure
    • How second movers study, copy, and outperform pioneers
    • Amazon vs. Nucleus and the Echo Show story
    • Grubhub vs. DoorDash and how solving 100% of the problem beats solving 50%
    • Market consolidation and why most industries end with only a few winners
    • Legacy systems, technical debt, and why early builders get trapped
    • Why innovation stalls when founders are too attached to V1
    • How hype cycles, investment narratives, and valuations distort reality
    • The difference between educating a market vs. scaling in an existing one
    • Why defensibility and moats matter more than originality
    • What founders should actually focus on if they’re first to market

    Key takeaway:
    Being first gets you attention. Being better gets you the market.

    This episode is a candid, founder-to-founder conversation about ego, innovation, ethics, iteration, and the brutal truth of competition. If you’re building something new, trying to scale, or stuck protecting version one of your product, this one will hit close to home.

    Support the show

    Follow George and Alicia!

    https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother
    https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/
    www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother
    https://liftlikeamother.com




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    40 mins
  • Why Most Perfect Couples and Brands Fail
    Jan 18 2026

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    Summary

    In this episode of "Married to the Startup," hosts Alicia and George McKenzie delve into the complexities of celebrity brands and their sustainability in the market. They discuss the recent divorce of a well-known couple and how it impacts their brand, highlighting the often performative nature of relationships showcased online. The conversation shifts to the dynamics of successful celebrity brands, emphasizing the importance of a solid operational team behind the celebrity's marketing prowess. They explore examples like Michael Jordan's brand and Kim Kardashian's Skims, contrasting them with failed ventures like House of Darion, which lacked market demand and operational strategy. The episode concludes with insights on the necessity of understanding customer needs and the pitfalls of emotional decision-making in business.


    Keywords

    celebrity brands, marketing strategy, relationship dynamics, business insights, Skims, House of Darion, Michael Jordan, entrepreneurship, brand sustainability, operational strategy


    Takeaways

    "The happier a couple seems online, the closer they are to divorce."
    "Visibility is not infrastructure."
    "You have to be paired up with people that are able to counterbalance you."
    "If you're emotionally so invested in the product that you're not willing to take any feedback or criticism, then that's a non-starter right there."
    "Celebrity brands are basically just a startup who they've got a little bit of a head start."


    Sound bites

    "The happier a couple seems online, the closer they are to divorce."
    "Visibility is not infrastructure."
    "Celebrity brands are basically just a startup who they've got a little bit of a head start."


    Chapters

    00:00 The Impact of Celebrity Relationships on Brands
    05:41 The Dynamics of Successful Celebrity Brands
    19:42 Lessons from House of Darion
    30:03 What Makes a Brand Successful?
    37:55 Final Thoughts on Celebrity Brands and Business Strategy

    Support the show

    Follow George and Alicia!

    https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother
    https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/
    www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother
    https://liftlikeamother.com




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    43 mins
  • Scaling Up a Marriage | is it equitable?
    Jan 11 2026

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    What if the problem in most marriages isn’t effort, but assumptions?

    In this episode, Alicia and George unpack why the idea of a “50/50 marriage” sounds good in theory but often breaks down in real life. Drawing parallels between marriage and running a company, they explore why fairness isn’t the same as effectiveness, and how division of labor, accountability, and outsourcing can actually reduce resentment at home.

    George challenges the popular “Fair Play” framework, arguing that life and relationships aren’t fair by design, and that focusing too much on equal task-counting can turn a partnership into a transactional scoreboard. Instead, they discuss treating the household like a startup, with clear functional ownership, aligned strengths, and honest check-ins.

    From invisible labor and mental load to quarterly getaways and outsourcing laundry, this conversation blends humor, real-life examples, and hard-earned lessons from both marriage and entrepreneurship.

    If your household is running on vibes alone, this episode offers a new way to think about partnership without killing the romance.

    What We Cover:

    • Why marriage doesn’t have to be 50/50 to be healthy
    • The danger of unspoken assumptions and silent resentment
    • Running a household like a business (without losing the romance)
    • Functional accountability at home vs task-based fairness
    • Why George doesn’t believe in “Fair Play”
    • Outsourcing, time tradeoffs, and protecting your relationship
    • Monthly check-ins, quarterly getaways, and intentional connection

    Listen now to Episode 58 of Married to the Startup

    Support the show

    Follow George and Alicia!

    https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother
    https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/
    www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother
    https://liftlikeamother.com




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