Dr. Jackie Greene isn’t asking for permission—she’s letting us know that God has already given it.

As a preacher, teacher, and founder of Permission Room, she has been called to equip women to step fully into who they already are in Christ. Not later. Not once they’ve perfected it. Now.

In this episode of Mavericks on the Mic, we sit down with Dr. Jackie for a powerful conversation about spiritual identity, leadership, and the cost of becoming whole in a world that keeps trying to shrink you.

This is not about titles. It’s about authority.
It’s not about roles. It’s about revelation.
And it’s not about balance—it’s about alignment.

We talk through:
🎙️What it really means to walk in wholeness
🎙️Why obedience will always feel heavier than people expect
🎙️ Leading in male-dominated spaces without apologizing for your call
🎙️Performance-based Christianity vs actual intimacy with God
🎙️ The moment God told her: “You don’t need permission to be who I called”

This conversation is an activation for every person who's been holding back.

You don’t need permission to be powerful.
But if you’ve been waiting for it—here it is.

Chapter Markers
00:00 – Intro: Dr. Jackie Greene Joins Mavericks on the Mic
02:15 – Leading Beside a Giant: What It Means to Be Jackie Greene
05:45 – Identity Outside of Titles: Woman First, Before Any Role
09:30 – The Cost of Leading Well in Public and Private
13:12 – Surrendering to the Process When You Don’t Like the Pace
17:45 – Why Spiritual Discipline ≠ Spiritual Identity
21:08 – Performance vs. Purpose in Christian Culture
24:50 – The Reality of Church Hurt & Religious Pressure
30:00 – Raising Daughters in Today’s Culture
35:26 – Becoming Whole: The Journey to Loving All of You
41:12 – How She Protects Her Peace & Discerns Her Yes
46:50 – Wholeness > Perfection: Letting Go of the Pressure
50:10 – Jackie’s Heart for Women in Leadership
55:30 – What She’s Learning About God Right Now
59:47 – Final Word: Your Calling Is Not a Performance

#DrJackieGreene #MavericksOnTheMic #FaithAndWholeness #WomenInMinistry #FaithLeadership #ChurchHurt #SpiritualGrowth #WholenessJourney #IdentityInChrist #CallingOverClout #PurposeDrivenLife #ChristianLeadership #BlackWomenInMinistry #FaithAndFemininity #GodFirstAlways #permissionroom

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This episode is a masterclass in obedience, legacy, and faith that doesn't fold under pressure.

In this powerful conversation, we sit down with our brother Travis Greene — GRAMMY-nominated artist, pastor of Forward City, and the pen behind “Made a Way.” He unpacks the pivotal year of 2014, the miracle that changed his family forever, and why he said “yes” to starting a church before he had a hit record.

This pod isn’t a highlight reel. It’s the behind-the-scenes story of a man who chose obedience over applause, ministry over mega platforms, and has watched God multiply it all. We talk about stewarding pain, carrying miracles, building the next generation, and the weight of representation as a Black man called to lead both in church and culture.

We cover it all: from recording music in closets, to pastoring through betrayal, to fatherhood, loss, success, and what it really means to say “yes” to God in every season. It’s not a branding move, it’s a lifestyle rooted in memory and mission.

This one will mark you. Don’t miss it.

00:00 – The Year That Changed Everything: 2014
03:15 – Saying Yes to Pastoring Before the Music Took Off
06:10 – Made a Way: The Miracle Behind the Song
12:40 – Faith Was Built in the Hospital, Not the Studio
18:00 – Maturity Through Suffering: Why Pain Grows You
23:09 – Don’t Forget: The Power of Remembering What God Has Done
31:51 – Travis’ Near-Death Experience as a Child
37:30 – God's Goodness Doesn’t Mean Easy Outcomes
42:45 – Ministry vs. Performance: What Keeps You Grounded
50:00 – Parenting, Culture & Representation in 2025
58:15 – What’s Wrong With the Church? And How Do We Fix It?
1:04:00 – The New Album: Gritty, Missional, Unapologetic
1:14:45 – Why We Need Black Men in the Home Again
1:20:30 – Betrayal & Leadership: Lessons From the Pulpit
1:28:15 – Are You Praying for the Wrong Thing?
1:34:30 – Maverick Moment: The Call That Changed His Career Forever

#TravisGreene #MadeAWay #FaithOverFame #ChristianArtist #ObedienceOverOpportunity #BlackVoicesOfFaith #ForwardCity #GospelMusic #MiracleTestimony #PurposeOverPlatform #MavericksonTheMic

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This one’s not for the surface-level listener. In this episode of Mavericks on the Mic, we sit down with Kirk Franklin — not just the artist, the icon, or the GOAT — but the man. The one who has been carrying the tension between calling and culture for over 30 years.

We talked about it all:
🎙️Faith that’s lived in tension, not perfection
🎙️Wrestling with trauma while writing the soundtrack of a generation
🎙️Deconstruction, father wounds, and learning how to stay grounded in truth
🎙️Why gospel music isn’t dying, it’s shifting
🎙️Why Kirk said yes to Maverick City, and what it cost him

If you’ve ever struggled with faith, questioned your place in the church, or wrestled with who God really is while trying to navigate real life, this conversation is for you.

This is what happens when the legend pulls up, keeps it real, and holds nothing back.

Chapter Markers
00:00 – Living in the Tension: Kirk Keeps It Real from the Start
02:24 – Has Gospel Music Gone Too Far?
04:30 – Authenticity, Trauma & Writing from the Middle of the Mess
06:48 – Same Kirk, Same Struggles — Just More Honest
08:25 – Writing Through Pain: “Jesus, Help My Emotions”
10:10 – Christmas with No Tree: Childhood Stories That Shaped the Man
15:09 – Where Kirk’s Relationship with Jesus Started
22:31 – The Church, Surrogacy, and Why So Many People Feel Controlled
25:44 – Can the Church Weaponize Good Things?
28:44 – Deconstruction vs. Destruction: What's Really Happening
33:02 – Why Kirk Started Studying Apologetics in His 30s
35:47 – The Roof, The Piano, and the Romantic Side of Faith
37:35 – Why He Became an Artist Without Ever Dreaming It
44:27 – What Maverick City Tour Meant for Him at 52
46:29 – “Imagine Me” & How Race Changes How We Worship
50:00 – A 360 Worship Experience: Black, White, Rich, Poor, Together
53:06 – Giving Voice to Vulnerability in Gospel Music
57:13 – Why Kirk Hid His Grammys in the Garage
59:57 – What Changed After the 1st Grammy Win
1:01:57 – Authentic Christianity Lives in the Tension
1:08:17 – The Church’s Fear of Grace — and Why We’re Losing People
1:13:40 – Why Success Feels Heavier Than Struggle
1:15:52 – Light vs. Dark: Why Kirk Still Does Collabs
1:20:16 – Why Kirk Said Yes to Kingdom
1:27:08 – Is Gospel Music Still Alive?
1:35:21 – Kirk’s Real Concerns About the Future of Christian Culture
1:38:07 – Closing: Authenticity Always Wins

#KirkFranklin #MavericksOnTheMic #FaithAndFame #GospelMusic #ChristianDeconstruction #AuthenticFaith #ChurchCulture #BlackFaithExperience #WrestlingWithFaith #KingdomTour #ChristianityInTension #MusicAndMinistry #ModernGospel #ChristianCulture #KirkFranklinInterview #MaverickCityMusic

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