In this episode of Lead to Win, Pastor Jeff Little sits down with Michael Miller, founder and senior leader of Upper Room, for a conversation on pioneering, prayer, calling, and staying faithful when the path is unclear.

Michael shares the story of how a prayer room in Dallas became a church, what it takes to lead when you do not have all the answers, and why comparison can pull leaders away from the assignment God actually gave them. He also speaks to the next generation of leaders about hidden battles, spiritual formation, and the importance of being planted in the right soil.

Whether you are pioneering something new, developing young leaders, or trying to stay faithful in an uncertain season, this conversation will help you lead with clarity, conviction, and a deeper dependence on God.

TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Old Friends And Shared Roots
3:10 - Wedding Photos And Preacher Tie Talk
6:00 - Late Night Prayer And Early Risk
7:40 - The Call To Pioneer In Dallas
12:25 - Leading With Clarity In Uncertainty
16:54 - When People Line Up Outside
18:34 - Songwriting As A Fruit Of Calling
20:20 - Second Generation Leaders And Structure
24:50 - What Young Adults Need Most
30:37 - Soil, Process, And Hidden Battles
33:50 - Apprenticeship And Coaching Trees
36:05 - Spiritual Parents And Learning To Pray
39:24 - Defining Winning As A Leader
43:58 - Final Thanks And Subscribe Request

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