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The church is changing the names of it's young women age groups and is suing Mormon Stories, and somehow all of it connects — tithing scams, Prop 8 money, the MAGA cult, and what happens when you've been off the hamster wheel long enough to actually see it spinning. Also: Mormonism, Scientology, and the possibility they use the same marketing firm.

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This week: a surprise visit from a ghost of missions past — and Doug's suspects a group effort to bring him back to the church. Also, the question of what you'd actually do if money wasn't the thing, Mike turns 46 and has some feelings about it, and two guys getting way too excited about a backyard concert.

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Mike and Doug sit down with the legendary Brady and Meg Parks from The National Parks to talk about writing and recording a new album on their own—late nights in a backyard studio, kids asleep inside, and songs coming together in a chaotic mess until something clicks. They get into co-writing as a couple, dropping ego, and letting the music be less polished and more real—crickets, mistakes, and all.

The conversation also moves through faith transitions, band changes, and the feeling of everything you thought was set in stone starting to erode. From the dark night of the soul to becoming goo before transforming into something new, this one is about creating through hard times and remembering that even when everything changes, "still the river flows."

About The National Parks:

The National Parks is an American indie folk-pop band based in Provo, Utah, formed in 2013, known for their nature-inspired "adventure pop" sound. Founded by Brady Parks, the group often features themes of the outdoors, love, and growth in their five albums, including Young and Wild Spirit.

Their next album releases on August 28, 2025!

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