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Negotiating the Ocean

Negotiating the Ocean

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Negotiating the Ocean, an Ocean Equity podcast by ANCORS, peeks below the surface of international ocean governance. We take you behind the scenes of global talks on biodiversity, fisheries and deep-sea mining and ask the big questions around equity and social justice. This podcast enables a more inclusive understanding for those who can’t attend international meetings and provides vital information for new diplomats, NGOs and ocean researchers. This is your audio guide to navigate these high seas negotiations, brought to you by the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security.ANCORS Political Science Politics & Government
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  • Episode 12 - Ocean Cooperation: BBNJ & other IFBs
    Nov 1 2025
    Episode 12 - Ocean Cooperation: BBNJ & other IFBsWhen the new BBNJ Agreement was adopted, it entered a crowded space of already existing Instruments, Frameworks and Bodies (IFBs) in ocean governance.What do other organisations think of BBNJ - and where are overlaps?Which lessons can be learned from cooperation in a shared ocean?How would ideal cooperation look like?In this episode we talk to 4 Secretariats of those IFBs:One regional fisheries management organisation (North East Atlantic Fisheries Commission, NEAFC); one regional conservation organisation (OSPAR); the International Seabed Authority (ISA); and the Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD).Guests: Darius Campbell, the Executive Secretary of the North East Atlantic Fisheries Commission (NEAFC) Dominic Pattinson, the former Executive Secretary of the OSPAR CommissionBruno Pozzi, the Deputy Secretary General of the International Seabed Authority (ISA)Joe Appiott, the coordinator for marine, coastal and island biodiversity of the Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD)Hosts: ⁠Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki⁠ & Bianca Haas & ⁠Jennifer Macey⁠Sound design and editing: ⁠⁠Emily Perkins⁠⁠Communication: ⁠Sunnefa Yeatman⁠For comments & feedback please contact: ⁠inatvw@uow.edu.au⁠ Find out more:ANCORS Ocean Equity page ⁠https://oceanequityresearch.org/⁠ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/⁠Official documents in preparation for the Entry into Force of the BBNJ Agreement on the United Nations WebsiteBBNJ: ⁠https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en⁠North East Atlantic Fisheries Commission: ⁠https://www.neafc.org/⁠ OSPAR: ⁠https://www.ospar.org/⁠International Seabed Authority (ISA): ⁠https://isa.org.jm/⁠ Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD): ⁠https://www.cbd.int/⁠ Further Materials & SourcesOSPAR Decision 2021/01 on the establishment of the North Atlantic Current and Evlanov Sea basin Marine Protected Area ⁠https://www.ospar.org/documents?v=46308⁠ Collective arrangement between competent international organisations on cooperation and coordination regarding selected areas in areas beyond national jurisdiction in the North‐East Atlantic: ⁠https://www.ospar.org/documents?v=33030⁠
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    48 mins
  • Episode 11 - Children & Youth
    Sep 30 2025
    Around half of the world’s population are young people but how are they included in international negotiations about the future of our planet? This episode portrays the importance of youth involvement in intergovernmental processes, maps different ways for young people to participate in ocean negotiations and highlights opportunities at local, national and global levels.How can younger generations shape the future of our ocean?What is the age group of young ocean advocates?And what needs to be changed to strengthen youth engagement in our current ocean governance systems?Guests: Charley Peebler (Co-Founder of Heirs to Our Ocean, Global Youth Leader, and Member of Youth Inclusion Expert Working Group for the UN Ocean Decade)Chloe McKenna (Head of Communications for Heirs to Our Ocean, Global Youth Leader, and Member of Youth Inclusion Expert Working Group for the UN Ocean Decade)Armon Alex (Head of Development and Outreach for Heirs to Our Ocean, Global Youth Leader, and Member of Youth Inclusion Expert Working Group for the UN Ocean Decade)Ishwarya Kandasamy (Thematic Focal Point for BBNJ, Oceans Youth Constituency, Major Group for Children and Youth)Hosts: ⁠Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki⁠ & ⁠Jennifer Macey⁠ Sound design and editing: ⁠⁠Emily Perkins⁠⁠Communication: ⁠Sunnefa Yeatman⁠For comments & feedback please contact: ⁠inatvw@uow.edu.au⁠ Find out more:ANCORS Ocean Equity page ⁠https://oceanequityresearch.org/⁠ANCORS at the University of Wollongong ⁠https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/⁠You can find official documents in preparation for the Entry into Force of the BBNJ Agreement on the United Nations Website: https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/second-session-18-29-august-2025Youth-led NGO “Heirs to Our Ocean”:Official Website: https://h2oo.org/Meet Heirs to Our Ocean The Official Children and Youth Constituency of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (YOUNGO):Official Website: https://youngoclimate.org/ To join Ocean’s Voice working group of YOUNGO Major Group for Children and Youth (MGCY): Official Website: https://www.unmgcy.org/ Get involved with MGCY as an organisation and as an individual United Nations Youth Delegate Program: Become a ⁠UN Youth DelegateFurther Youth Engagement opportunities: Become a High Seas Youth AmbassadorBecome a member of the Youth Advisory CouncilYouth Advocacy Training - World Ocean DayYouth LeadershipHome | GenSeaA WAVE OF MESSAGES FOR THE HIGH SEAS - High Seas Alliance Treaty RatificationHigh Seas Youth Advocacy | Trello Research on the BBNJ process by ANCORS researchers:Lothian, S. (2023). The BBNJ preamble: More than just window dressing. Marine Policy, 153, 105642-. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105642Lothian, S. L. (2022). Marine conservation and international law: legal instruments for biodiversity beyond national jurisdiction. Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group.Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2024). Pathways of scientific input into intergovernmental negotiations: a new agreement on marine biodiversity. International Environmental Agreements : Politics, Law and Economics, 24(2–3), 325 348. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2022). Governing a Divided Ocean: The Transformative Power of Ecological Connectivity in the BBNJ Negotiations. Politics and Governance, 10(3), 14 28. https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2020). The Voice of Science on Marine Biodiversity Negotiations: A Systematic Literature Review. Frontiers in Marine Science, 7. https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282
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    35 mins
  • Episode 10 - Human Rights at Sea
    Aug 4 2025
    Over the last decade human rights violations in the fishing industry have received global attention. Many of these incidents occur on board fishing vessels, often fishing far off the coast. In this episode, three experts who have been fighting to ensure better working conditions for crew on board fishing vessels will provide insights into this topic. Guests: Rizky Octaviana – Indonesian MigrantWorkers Union, SBMIBubba Cook – SharkspacificMarcelo Hidalgo – Fishing IndustryAssociation Papua New Guinea Hosts: Bianca Haas & Jennifer MaceySound design and editing: Emily Perkins Communication: Sunnefa YeatmanFor comments & feedback please contact: inatvw@uow.edu.au Find out more:ANCORS Ocean Equity page https://oceanequityresearch.org/ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/ Indonesian Migrant Workers Union (SBMI):Webpage: https://sbmi.or.id/Sharkspacific: Webpage: https://sharkspacific.org/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sharkspacificorgLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sharks-pacific/posts/?feedView=allInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/sharkspacificorg/?hl=enFishing Industry Association Papua New Guinea:Webpage: https://www.fia-png.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fishing-industry-association-fia/posts/?feedView=all Official Documents from WCPFC:Conservation and Management Measure for Crew Labour Standards (WCPFC Meeting, 2024): CMM 2024-04 -Conservation and Management Measure for Crew Labour Standards | Monitoring andEvaluation Research on the Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission by ANCORS researchers:Haas, B., Oh, S., Dalton, K., Chang, SK., Fitzpatrick, J., Minami, K., Matsui, H., Xue, G., An, J.E., Azmi, K., Davis, R., Lin, H.Y., Jung, M.H., and Hanich, Q. (2023). Untangling Jurisdictional Complexities for Crew Labour Regulations on Fishing Vessels in the Western and Central Pacific Ocean. The International Journal of Marine and Coastal Law. https://doi.org/10.1163/15718085-bja10120Hidalgo, M., Trott, P., and Haas, B. (2025). The vulnerability of observers – An evaluation of observer programs welfare and working conditions policies. Marine Policy. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2024.106540Haas, B., Davis, R., Hidalgo, M., Posanau, N.A., and Papaol, D. (2025). Ensuring Social Accountability in Tuna Fisheries: Lessons Learned from the Pacific. https://www.fia-png.com/_files/ugd/872bdb_9f430e33bd634b13ab2b592f078c4102.pdf
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    27 mins
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