Pastor Mike, Missions Pastor at Elmbrook Church, joins Albo to talk about what it really looks like to reach men who are close to us—but far from God.

This conversation gets practical. Pastor Mike shares stories, but more importantly, he challenges leaders to rethink how they live on mission. It's not about programs—it's about proximity, authenticity, and obedience.

They also tackle the hard side of leadership: making difficult decisions when people don't align with your values, and why short-term discomfort often leads to long-term health.

If you're leading a ministry, building relationships, or trying to live your faith out in the real world—this episode will push you to take action.

Matt Erickson, pastor at Eastbrook Church with over three decades of ministry experience, joins Nate Gruber to explore what it really means to lead faithfully in a complex and changing world.

Drawing from his new book The Pastor as Gardener, Matt unpacks how the metaphors we live by shape the way we lead, pastor, and follow Jesus. In a culture that often pushes for results and performance, he offers a different vision—one rooted in presence, trust, and long-term growth.

Matt reminds us that fruitful ministry doesn't come from striving—it flows from a deep, ongoing relationship with God. Like a gardener planting seeds, we are called to be faithful with what we've been given, trusting God to bring growth in His timing.

If you're feeling the weight of expectations in leadership, this episode offers a grounded and hope-filled perspective: stay rooted, stay faithful, and let God do what only He can do.

Get Matt's book:
The Pastor as Gardener → https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802884145/the-pastor-as-gardener/

Learn more:
https://mwerickson.com

Today on the No Regrets Podcast, Albo Esilaba is joined by Dr. Gary Gregg to continue the series on mental health and leadership, focusing on how to understand and manage leadership anxiety.

Dr. Gregg explains that anxiety isn't something we can—or should—eliminate. At a healthy level, it shows we care and are invested. But when it grows too strong, it can rob us of joy and impact our leadership. Rather than ignoring it, anxiety can be a signal pointing to something that needs our attention.

They discuss how many leaders carry hidden fears of not being enough, and how trying to suppress anxiety often makes it worse. Instead, leaders need to reflect, be honest, and invite trusted people into their lives. We are responsible to others, not for them—and we don't have to lead alone.

Dr. Gregg also shares practical habits for staying healthy: do your own work, avoid shortcuts in growth, and build strong relationships that help you stay grounded.

Resource Mentioned: Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs by Steve Cuss