Jack and Olivia host their former client (and present friend) Megan to discuss their shared and separate experiences of moving through the world as Heart Types.

For your reference, their types are as follows:

Jack - sx/so 278(367)

Olivia - sx/sp 361(479)

Megan - sp/so 479(368)

Olivia and Jack run through common mistypings they see in their clients and discuss what overlaps & misconceptions are likely to cause these phenomena.

Meet NMT's third typist! Originally a client, Olivia's now been typing clients with us since Summer of 2024.

Here we discuss her experience with her interesting type setup [sx/sp 361(479)] and our recent discoveries since realizing she is social blind!

Jack and Jessica share the difference in their findings between Attachment fixes with Frustration wings and Attachment fixes with Rejection wings.

0:56 - Attachment Types have either a Frustration wing or a Rejection wing

2:34 - Introduction of Eugene

3:05 - Commonality of Attachment fixes

3:45 - Shielded types - Attachment with Rejection wings

4:32 - Exposed types - Attachment with Frustration wings

5:27 - Eye contact

6:12 - Why Frustration types are not exposed

9:32 - 3w4 appearing self-conscious

10:23 - Jessica's experience being double exposed

13:20 - Single vs. double exposure

13:40 - Social-blindness ruining eye contact

15:44 - Exposed types feeling uncomfortable

16:51 - Jack being obsessed with eye contact

20:34 - Contrasting exposed and shielded iterations of the same type

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Jack and Jessica discuss a model of Object Relations manifesting on a quarter.

0:40 - Overview / review of Object Relations

3:00 - Assertive Types (3, 7, 8) and the Nurturing Object

4:09 - Compliant Types (1, 2, 6) and the Protecting Object

6:08 - Withdrawn Types (4, 5, 9) and the Belonging Object

7:53 - Hexad vs. Triangle

9:27 - Using a quarter as an "object" lesson: Frustration and Rejection as two sides of the same coin

13:53 - Attachment Types continuing connection to their Objects

15:54 - 7 and 8 having opposite affects toward the Nurturing Object

17:13 - Hexads per Center of Intelligence as inversions of each other

20:56 - Jack vocalizing his opinions

22:15 - Triangle types ending up somewhere they didn't intend to be

24:46 - Hexad types having already toppled / landed

25:37 - Attachment Types refusing to individuate

27:49 - Difference between the life journeys of triangle types and hexad types

30:36 - Jessica's real-time Frustration

33:40 - Sample of a past argument

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Jack and Jessica discuss the movie Saltburn, unpacking the type structures of the characters and overall Enneagram themes throughout the film.

0:40 - How actors' types distort the intended types of the characters they play

2:06 - Overall themes of Saltburn

3:11 - Summary of the film

4:28 - Emerald Fennell (director / screenwriter)

6:25 - Oliver

9:00 - Felix

12:40 - Elspeth

16:00 - Venetia

18:20 - Sir James

18:55 - Duncan

19:45 - Farleigh

23:36 - Michael

24:50 - Pamela

27:00 - sx-blind audience's reactions to Saltburn's shocking scenes

28:35 - Mythological imagery

29:57 - Attachment types in crisis

31:25 - Emerald's 7-1 link incorporating long-game foreshadowing

32:37 - Ignorance of British aristocracy

33:45 - Elspeth being double positive

34:53 - sp-blind's world being highly external / relational

35:30 - Oliver's unbelonging

36:25 - Felix's tour of Saltburn

38:08 - sx/so's singular attention in making a new friend

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Melea, Jack, and Jessica unpack the five remaining portions of the instinctual cycle, picking up from where they left off with sx/sp.

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2:02 - Overview of the terms "waxing" and "waning"

3:04 - sp/so as a singular form maturing into a broader world

6:34 - so/sx as multiplicious procreation

9:10 - How do the waxing stackings show up behaviorally?

12:15 - sx/so as advertisement of remaining fertility

16:15 - Contrasting sx/so with sx/sp

18:37 - so/sp as the mature symbol of its kind

21:05 - sp/sx as decay / death

23:20 - Contrasting sp/sx with sp/so

24:55 - Jessica leaving traces for others in the future

27:06 - How our dominant instinct feels life/death to our psyche

28:45 - GIFs for the sexual instinct as secondary vs. dominant

30:20 - Melea measuring her energy by meaningful interactions

32:05 - Jessica thinks a lot about food

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Melea, Jack, and Jessica explore NMT's discovery of the instinctual cycle, building from David Gray's original concepts of "synflow" and "contraflow."

Be sure to view the diagram of the instinctual cycle while you listen!

1:35 - Overview of the three instincts

9:30 - Wondering how the instincts relate to Maslow's hierarchy of needs

10:33 - Overview of instinctual cycle as life and death processes

13:00 - Jack failing at the self-preservation instinct

14:55 - Jessica failing at the social instinct

18:10 - David Gray's "flows"

23:09 - Why is knowing about "flow" helpful?

24:35 - Finding the sexual instinct's location in a vertical diagram

27:20 - sx/sp as conception / creation

30:32 - Self-preservation reinforcing sexual's agenda

34:35 - Renaming "synflow" as "waxing" and "contraflow" as "waning"

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