The new 2025–2030 U.S. Dietary Guidelines have ignited controversy, and for once, nutrition policy is trending. From an upside-down food pyramid stacked with red meat, butter, and full-fat dairy to confusing messaging on saturated fat, processed foods, and plant-based diets, many experts are asking: How did we get here?

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Matthew Nagra, Canadian naturopathic doctor, nutrition researcher, and science communicator, to break down what actually happened behind the scenes. We unpack the disconnect between the 20-member Scientific Advisory Committee and the nine-person review panel, the role of ideology and industry ties, and why the final visuals contradict the written recommendations.

We cover:

• Why the inverted food pyramid is misleading (and possibly unworkable)
• The saturated fat contradiction, and what the evidence really says
• Red meat, cancer risk, and what the guidelines leave out
• The problematic treatment of vegan and plant-based diets
• Dairy recommendations, lactose intolerance, and equity concerns
• Ultra-processed foods, breakfast cereals, and nuance lost in translation
• Why institutions may ignore the pyramid, but the public won’t

If you’re confused by the headlines, frustrated by the visuals, or worried about how these guidelines could influence schools, policy, and public perception, this conversation brings clarity, context, and evidence, without the spin.

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Are seed oils actually harmful, or is the internet just shouting louder than the science? In this myth-busting episode, Michelle and Kevin go deep into the evidence behind seed oils, saturated fats, omega-6 to omega-3 ratios, and the real health risks hiding in ultra-processed foods.

Michelle breaks down how different oils (canola, soybean, olive, corn) vary in fatty acid composition, why polyunsaturated fats consistently lower LDL cholesterol, and how studies often misinterpret outdated data from the 1960s that involved trans-fat-laden margarine. They also explore why anti–seed oil arguments often confuse mechanism with real-world outcomes, and how lifestyle patterns, not canola oil, drive chronic inflammation.

You’ll learn:

• Why seed oils aren’t the inflammatory villains social media claims
• How polyunsaturated fats actually reduce cardiovascular disease risk
• The truth about omega-6 vs omega-3 ratios (and what really matters)
• Why ultra-processed foods (not the oils inside them) are the real issue
• How to include healthy fats without overdoing calorie-dense oils
• Whole-food sources of omega-3s that support a balanced diet

Plus: Michelle reveals updated research, a massive umbrella review on vegetable oils, and a surprising update on Paul Saladino’s carnivore diet health crash.

If you haven’t already, listen to Episode 10 for a full primer on dietary fats and oils.

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This episode is a companion to Episode 10 with important clarification and with some updated information, particularly in context regarding omega-6 fatty acids.

Additional resources:

• https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/scientists-debunk-seed-oil-health-risks/
• https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/10.1001/jamainternmed.2024.3799?utm_source=openevidence&utm_medium=referral
• https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1800389?utm_source=openevidence
• https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/10.1001/jamainternmed.2025.0205?utm_source=openevidence&utm_medium=referral
• Umbrella Review: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39053603
• https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773120?utm_source=openevidence&utm_medium=referral
• https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/are-seed-oils-healthful-or-harmful/
• https://www.plantbaseddata.org/ (under 'Omega 6' topic folder)

In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, Michelle and Kevin sit down with physician, researcher, and global health advocate Dr. Tushar Mehta to explore how our food system impacts human health, environmental sustainability, pandemic risk, and social justice.

Dr. Mehta breaks down the evidence behind whole-food, plant-based and Eat-Lancet dietary patterns, clarifying what the science actually says about optimal nutrition, minimal animal-product consumption, and the role of processed foods. The discussion goes deep into zoonotic disease origins, antibiotic resistance, climate impacts, and what it will take to feed a projected 10 billion people by 2050 without compromising ecosystems, human dignity, or global equity.

The episode also highlights cultural sensitivity, realistic dietary approaches, the future of farming, and why dietary change doesn’t have to mean losing the joy of food. A thoughtful, evidence-rich, and compassionate look at the choices on our plate, and what they mean for our collective future.

Plus: rapid-fire questions and a couple of delightfully groan-worthy climate dad jokes.

Please subscribe and drop us a review—your feedback helps fellow noobs find their way to better nutrition.

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Additional resources:

• https://www.plantbaseddata.org/
• https://plantricianproject.org/food-math-101 Plantrician Project Infographic (mentioned by Michelle)
• Regenerative Grazing and more: https://iffs.earth/top-facts/

Other podcast episodes featuring Dr. Tushar Mehta:

• Radical Overconsumption, Ecological Genocide, Economics & Degrowth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nqcm9NVJNY
• Understanding Pandemics and Covid-19 https://planttrainers.libsyn.com/understanding-pandemics-like-covid-19-with-dr-tushar-mehta-ptp363
• Dismantling Regenerative Animal Agriculture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me8mxaQrRks