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Change is one of life’s few guarantees. In this episode, we reflect on growing up, navigating loss, and watching the world around us evolve. Through stories of people we’ve loved and those we’ve had to say goodbye to, we explore what it means to keep moving forward and how choosing happiness, even in hard seasons, can be a quiet act of courage.

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In this episode of Old Times Talk, we talk with a guest who grew up in Draper during a time when life was simple and familiar faces filled the neighborhood.

She shares memories of being sealed in the temple, learning from her children and parents, and learning life lessons through everyday moments. We also hear about working at the Iceberg, where a nickel could buy ice cream and a job meant more than just a paycheck.

It’s a simple, honest conversation about family, faith, and growing up in a different time.

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Born in Scotland in 1938, our guest’s life has taken him across countries and cultures. He married his wife from Germany, and together they built a life that eventually brought them to the United States.

In this episode, he reflects on love, family, God, and the quiet moments that make a life meaningful. It’s a simple, honest conversation about change, connection, and what it means to live a good life.