Episodes

  • On The Lead: 100 Years of History into a Kentucky Derby Win w/ Daisy Phipps Pulito
    May 12 2026

    In this special episode, Shannon Kelly and PTF sit down with Daisy Phipps Pulito of Phipps Stable, a Thoroughbred racing ownership operation with more than 100 years of history, following Golden Tempo’s Kentucky Derby victory. Daisy shares insight into the strategy behind Golden Tempo’s campaign, including the decision to partner with trainer Cherie Devaux and the patient approach that allowed the colt to improve with each prep race leading up to the Derby.

    History was made at the 152nd Kentucky Derby, where Cherie DeVaux became the first female trainer to win the race. Daisy reflects on the trust, timing, and long-term planning in developing a Derby contender, as well as what this milestone means for both Phipps Stable and the broader Thoroughbred industry.

    From the earliest stages of Golden Tempo’s development to the 152nd Kentucky Derby finish line, this episode offers a closer look at the many hands, decisions, and dedication that helped shape this defining victory.

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    23 mins
  • On the Lead Podcast: "Horse Racing's North Star: The 20-Year Mission to Keep Our Athletes Safer"
    Apr 6 2026

    Since the first Welfare & Safety of the Racehorse Summit in 2006, the industry has achieved a 47% reduction in racing fatalities — and the work is far from over. Peter Thomas Fornatale and Shannon Kelly sit down with Jamie Hayden, president of the Grayson Jockey Club Research Foundation, and Dr. Scollay, consultant for the Equine Injury Database, to look back on two decades of progress. They discuss the data, the diagnostics, the surfaces, and the culture shift that's made thoroughbred racing safer for horses and riders alike. From standardized pre-race exams and the national Vets List to cutting-edge PET scans and racing surface science, this episode explains exactly how horse racing transformed its approach to safety — and where it's headed next.

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    40 mins
  • On the Lead: Everett Dobson's First 100 Days as Chair
    Nov 10 2025

    As season one of On the Lead draws to a close, Shannon and PTF sit down for an exclusive conversation marking Everett Dobson’s first 100 days as Chair of The Jockey Club on November 7. In this special season finale, you’ll get an inside look at the recent leadership transition and hear Dobson’s candid reflections on his expectations and vision for the future of the Thoroughbred industry.

    When discussing his recent priorities, Dobson outlines a forward-thinking agenda focused on advancing the health and well-being of both horses and participants, working closely with HISA leadership to strengthen data collection and use it to drive meaningful improvements in overall welfare. Dobson also emphasizes the need for greater transparency across the industry, ensuring that both stakeholders and the betting public can better understand the economics of wagering while making data more accessible and meaningful throughout the sport.

    Looking ahead, Dobson reflects on the power of storytelling and fan engagement, pointing to the NBA as a model for how a sport can successfully leverage its greatest assets, its fans and athletes, to build deeper connections and broader appeal.

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    35 mins
  • On the Lead: The Miracle of Stable Recovery
    Oct 14 2025

    Hosts Shannon Kelly of the Jockey Club and Peter Thomas Fornatale from In the Money Media sit down with two special guests on a memorable edition of the show.

    Christian Countzler of Stable Recovery and Will Walden, a Grade 1 winning trainer who is also an ambassador for the program, share their recovery experiences and talk about the special connection between humans and horses that's at the center of this amazing initiative that's helped so many people.

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    29 mins
  • On the Lead: The Ratings System - An Innovative Twist on Race Conditions
    Jul 13 2025

    Brought to you by The Jockey Club.

    Shannon Kelly and PTF are back with a look at a fascinating new Jockey Club initiative -- the creation of a new category of races for horsemen and owners: Ratings Races. Kyle McDoniel and Chance Moquette of Equibase join for an in-depth discussion about the hows, whys, and benefits of this new project that aims to create better options for connections and more interesting races for bettors.

    The newly introduced Ratings Races initiative, spearheaded by the Jockey Club in collaboration with Equibase, represents a transformative advancement in the racing industry, aimed at providing enhanced opportunities for horsemen and owners. This initiative seeks to establish a novel category of races that will simplify conditions, thereby facilitating greater participation and engagement from owners eager to race their horses without the apprehension of potential claims.

    In this enlightening discourse, we are joined by Kyle McDonald and Chance Moquett from Equibase, who elucidate the intricacies of this pioneering project and its anticipated benefits for both connections and bettors alike. The conversation delves into the algorithmic framework underpinning the ratings system, emphasizing its potential to produce competitive fields that enhance the overall betting experience. Ultimately, this initiative aspires to foster a more vibrant racing landscape, characterized by larger, more competitive fields and increased opportunities for all stakeholders involved.

    Takeaways:

    • The introduction of Ratings Races represents a significant evolution in North American horse racing, aimed at enhancing opportunities for horsemen and owners.

    • This initiative seeks to simplify race conditions, thereby allowing owners more options and hopefully increasing field sizes at tracks.


    • The Ratings system is based on an algorithm that evaluates a horse's form cycle, enhancing competitive fields without the complexities of traditional weight assignments.


    • The collaboration between various stakeholders in the racing industry is crucial for the success of the Ratings Races initiative, fostering a spirit of community and shared goals.


    • This new framework is designed not to replace claiming races but to complement them, providing additional pathways for horse owners to engage with the sport.


    • The ultimate goal of the Ratings Races is to create more interesting and competitive racing experiences for bettors, which could lead to increased industry engagement.




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    28 mins
  • On the Lead: A Stake in Stardom, Griffin Johnson's Ride to the Kentucky Derby
    Apr 28 2025

    Brought to you by The Jockey Club.

    Shannon Kelly and PTF are back with you for the most timely episode yet of the On the Lead podcast. They sit down with TikTok superstar Griffin Johnson, who owns Kentucky Derby contender Sandman in partnership with West Point Thoroughbreds.

    Rachel Miller of America's Best Racing joins as well for a fun and freewheeling look at the world's of influencing and horse racing.

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    41 mins
  • On the Lead: Horse Training and Technology
    Apr 9 2025

    It wasn't that long ago when even large horse training operations used clipboards and index cards to manage all the complexities of their operations. That's all changed because of technology, which now allows training operations of all sizes, and the industry as a whole, to keep a much better handle on their affairs. In this episode of On the Lead, a joint venture between the Jockey Club and In the Money Media, Pete Fornatale and Shannon Kelly sit down with Tracy Attfield, the creator of TLore, and Maggie Sweet, former COO for Todd Pletcher and current Executive Director of the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation, to talk all about how technology has changed and improved the lives of trainers everywhere.

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    29 mins
  • On the Lead Presents Horse Racing Unites in Crisis: A Tale from California
    Feb 25 2025

    This episode offers a sobering examination of the catastrophic fires that have ravaged parts of California, particularly focusing on their impact on horse racing . Peter Thomas Fornatale and Shannon Kelly engage with Jodie Vella-Gregory and Kristina Schulz, who provide firsthand accounts of the crisis, detailing the urgency and fear experienced during the height of the fires. The conversation reveals the immediate response measures implemented at Santa Anita, where a crisis plan was swiftly executed to ensure the safety of horses and personnel alike. From there, Jodie Vella-Gregory highlights the 1/st team’s initial response to the crisis and how it organically evolved into a way to help the community as a whole.

    Throughout the show, listeners learn about the amazing job the 1/st team did in delivering crucial support to affected individuals, detailing the various forms of assistance available. Shannon Kelly also informs listeners about the role of the Jockey Club Safety Net Foundation in the crisis so far and the recovery yet to come.

    This episode not only highlights the challenges posed by natural disasters but also showcases the strength and unity of the racing community as they rally to support one another.

    Takeaways:

    • The ongoing crisis in California due to fires has deeply impacted the racing community.
    • Shannon Kelly discussed the scope of assistance provided by the Jockey Club Safety Net foundation.
    • Eyewitness accounts reveal the harrowing experiences of those affected by the California wildfires.
    • The collaboration among various organizations showcases the racing community’s commitment to support each other during crises.
    • The Safety Net foundation is prepared to assist individuals in the racing industry for the long term.
    • Efforts to help the broader community during the crisis reflect the racing community’s strong ties and responsibility.

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    37 mins