In Episode 2, Chris Hoffman is joined by Sandra Uwantege Hart (Mercy Corps Ventures) and Doug Smith (Acting CEO, Data Friendly Space) for a clear-eyed conversation about open source, Digital Public Goods (DPGs), and what sustainability really looks like once the pilot funding runs out.

This episode cuts through the buzzwords and gets into the hard parts: why “everything must be open source” can unintentionally create abandoned codebases, how donor incentives shape what gets built (and what gets maintained), and why long-term ownership, governance, and security often matter more than ideology. Doug shares why AI adoption is accelerating faster than most humanitarian policies can keep up, and what that means for risk and accountability. Sandra adds the nuance on localization—how blanket requirements can undermine local tech start-ups and limit sustainable business models in the places where humanitarian response actually happens.

What we cover:

• Open source vs. DPGs (and when each makes sense)
• Sustainability beyond pilots: maintenance, governance, security
• Localization and market-shaping effects of funding requirements
• Responsible AI + data risk in humanitarian operations

Links:

• Data Friendly Space: https://www.datafriendlyspace.org/
• Doug Smith (DFS profile): https://www.datafriendlyspace.org/members/doug-smith
• Mercy Corps Ventures: https://www.mercycorps.org/what-we-do/ventures
• Mercy Corps Ventures: https://www.mercycorpsventures.com/

LinkedIn:

• Sandra Uwantege Hart: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandra-uwantege-hart-862b5986/
• Doug Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/connectwithdoug/

keywords: digital public goods, open source sustainability, humanitarian innovation, responsible AI, localization, humanitarian technology, NGO digital transformation, data governance.