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  • How to evaluate Science Communicators w/ Kacie Luaders of Could Be Pretty Cool (Out Think Influencers ep3)
    Jun 5 2025
    “ How do we actually encourage our audiences to have trust in us and to feel comfortable with information that is being presented to them? I think in some ways also that is also why the role of the influencer, can be really important because people aren't just latching onto these personalities to just get information. They could get information anywhere. There is a connection with a person, even if it's through, you know? The phone or the screen where they're like, oh, I followed this person. I subscribed to this person. I want to hear their perspective on hopefully this factual issue. And so again, it's messy.” Out Think Influencers is the second podcast series from Out Think Media, where I team up with experts to give you the historical, cultural and emotional context needed to understand kids' media today. Today’s episode takes a new turn down the road of Science Communications with Kacie Luaders. In 2011, I was very online and very into new ways to use social platforms creatively, both for narrative and also marketing purposes. That had naturally led me to explore TweetUps in their early incarnations. But Science Communicators were having a moment. Between the rise of YouTube, the early positive outlook of how YouTube could educate, combined with these micro-blogging platforms to draw new people to your content, I saw a LOT of scientists and science communicators grab their spotlight to shine on their corner of our life cycles. Some of my favorites are doing even better on TikTok and elsewhere, and I link to Out Think approved science influencers in the comments. Now, in order to be considered for any outreach events at NASA, you need social media credentials (if they even have the programs anymore) and it’s a far cry from when I couldn’t find the guest parking lot at NASA and the Director of Communications met me at the security desk and drove me to the TweetUp herself. In 2011, enough people at the NASA Communications team knew there was something exciting about showing people behind-the-scenes of a launch with special guests like Bill Nye. Thanks to this TweetUp (and the one I attended at Goldstone that was even cooler), I gained a level of understanding of just how much work goes into these explorations, and did become an ambassador for space to the people who read my work for other reasons–hello there, readers! Here I am, still talking about space in the context of media. That’s why the work that Kacie Luaders is doing at Civic Science Media Lab to consider creativity in scientific ways and science in an expansive and artistic way is so intriguing to me. So join us as she explains how to be: More mindful of what you consumeMore conscious of the messengerHow to find alternative source to confirm what a science influencer says or not Join Kacie Luaders and me, Cindy Marie Jenkins, as we Out Think Influencers, a series where I team up with experts to give your family the historical, cultural and emotional context needed to Out Think Media. Listen until the end to learn how Communicators can also be more mindful and the very first clue to key you into whether this is a reliable source or not. Show Notes 30 July 2024, “Consider This Next #3: Kacie Luaders talks to Cindy Marie Jenkins about bridging neuroscience and media literacy,” CivicSciTV-Radio,m https://open.spotify.com/episode/2U18wYk7Rwg3ZW57hFZkhK . 9 August 2023, Veciana-Suárez, Ana, “Why is Miami Still Hit Hard by HIV Rates? UHealth Collective, https://news.umiamihealth.org/en/why-is-miami-still-hit-hard-by-hiv-rates/ .2013, Blackfish, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnSCBNmLuAA . Eco Womanist Institute Southeast. 23 April 2025, “Can Creative Communities Transform Independent Artists’ Careers?” Could be Pretty Cool New, https://open.spotify.com/episode/1FW27Zhf1GtmAymdyMmM4x . Want more? Join our Patreon for free or $3/month and hear our Exclusive Extended Minisode here. Learn more about Out Think Media Kacie (Willis) Luaders holds a BS in Music Recording Technology from Hampton University and an MFA in Sound Design from Savannah College of Art and Design. She is the Founding Producer of Could Be Pretty Cool, a media company focused on podcast production and sound design. Kacie participated in the 2019 Spotify Sound Up podcasting accelerator program and created the Spotify Original podcast "You Heard Me Write." She has been recognized as one of the '40 Under 40 in Podcasting' by Podcast Magazine. Kacie has also worked as a theatrical sound designer, arts administrator, and speaker for various arts and cultural organizations. She has been a 2022 Emory Arts and Social Justice Fellow, a 2023 Black Public Media “PitchBlack” Immersive Forum Finalist, a 2023 Google News Initiative participant, and a 2024 Truist Foundation Fellow. Cindy Marie Jenkins (she/her), Host & Creative Producer. I have written at the intersection of parenting, tech, and pop culture for over ten years, and in the ...
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  • Sextortion & Kids: w/ Jen Lawrence from Fight Cyber Crime (Out Think Influencers ep 2)
    Apr 15 2025
    “Nobody is immune to this type of predatory behavior.” -Jennifer Lawrence DSW, LICSW Out Think Influencers is the second podcast series from Out Think Media, where I team up with experts to give you the historical, cultural and emotional context needed to understand kids' media today. Today’s episode continues discussing Influencers, and specifically the kinds of Romantic Scams that children can fall prey to. Grooming as a manipulative processTimes when minors may be more vulnerableHow to potentially identify if your child is in dangerHow to avoid panickingSigns of behavior changesThe roles of isolation and victims Show Notes We Fight Cyber CrimeScamSpotter.orgRomance Scam Recovery Group | FightCybercrime.org Next episode: the Breadcrumbs to Extremism Want more? Join our Patreon for free or $3/month and hear our Exclusive Extended Minisode here. Learn more about Out Think Media Jennifer Lawrence, Experienced clinical social worker with a demonstrated history of working in community based mental health services, higher education, the hospital/ health care industry, and the humanitarian space. Passionate about suicide prevention training and eliminating barriers to services for traditionally under-served populations. Skilled in clinical interventions, public speaking, clinical research, psychotherapy, and teaching. Cindy Marie Jenkins (she/her), Host & Creative Producer. I have written at the intersection of parenting, tech, and pop culture for over ten years, and in the entertainment industry for over twenty. As a published essayist/journalist in both international and national media, I always want to help families and educators. While Deputy Editor for JingKids Int’l, I discovered how to channel my rabbit hole research skills to help families into practical and emotionally open articles. That’s why I was excited to launch this venture to help families evaluate content creators on YouTube and have the dialogues needed to understand this new world. I am also grateful to the many readers and listeners who jumped on board! Shortly after graduating from NYU, I moved to Los Angeles where I was a Teaching Artist at multiple local nonprofits, such as CTGLA (Center Theatre Group), Safe Moves, the Virginia Avenue Project, Enrichment Works, before building and managing an arts education wing of Antaeus Company and expanding its professional classical Academy. For 15 years, I’ve run multiple workshops on arts marketing, outreach, and partnerships and was one of the first to pioneer digital marketing for Los Angeles theaters and nonprofits. Noticing that one gap between artists and potential audiences was curation, I produced and hosted review shows for both the emerging web series genre and traditional arts like live theatre. Now, I'm thrilled to use all of this experience in arts and higher education, theatre for young audiences, kids media literacy, writing, and outreach to present Taming of the Screens this spring. Deborah Lee Smith, Audio Editor Adam Emperor Southard, Theme Composer (also a fantastic photographer) Annie Collins, PR & Marketing Manager Annie Ruby, UI/UX & series logo Designer Angela Zhong, original Logo Designer/Out Think Media Produced by CMJ Communications LLC, DBA OutThink Media Who do you like to watch? Who should I review next? Read more: Reviews If you’d like extended, exclusive, and early interviews with our guests, please join the Patreon here. There is a free tier and it’s where we will build this community to help families.
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    17 mins
  • This is your child's brain on Influencer Marketing w/ Lauren Mazzarese (Out Think Influencers ep 1)
    Apr 7 2025
    “Your child needs to know that it’s okay to make mistakes, that your family and your forgiveness is always an open door.” -Cindy Marie Jenkins “We don't want to take kids' feelings away from them.” -Lauren Mazzarese Out Think Influencers is the second podcast series from Out Think Media, where I team up with experts to give you the historical, cultural and emotional context needed to understand kids' media today. Today’s episode kickstarts with Licensed Professional Counselor Lauren Mazzarese returning to share her expertise on: Influencer culture and how it works differently on our children’s brainsParasocial relationships vs celebrity marketing The clearest explanation of brain development and how it affects a child’s decision-making abilities over time I’ve ever heardHow to prepare kids to identify marketing In storesIn video games like Fortnite Exercises to control the impulse to give in to marketingDialogue starters for these conversations, both in advance and in the moment of distress Show Notes “Parasocial relationships are one-sided relationships, where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time, and the other party, the persona, is completely unaware of the other’s existence.” -National Register of Health Service PsychologistsFront. Psychol. , 16 March 2020, Sec. Developmental Psychology, Volume 11 - 2020 | https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.00451Disclosures 101 for Social Media InfluencersGood Mythical Morning Coping Skills PrimerOrigin Story by Carrie Klewin LawrenceWonderlands by Charles Baxter Next episode: Romantic Scams with Jennifer Lawrence Want more from Lauren? Join our Patreon for free or $3/month and hear our Exclusive Extended Minisode here. Learn more about Out Think Media Lauren Mazzarese (she/her) is a Licensed Professional Counselor who has been working as a therapist for the past 10 years. In her practice she focuses on several areas including substance abuse, trauma, LGBTQ+ issues, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder and ADHD. Part of her work with her clients often involves working with parents to address the mental and emotional health of their children. Lauren also has a background in theatre and spent several years performing on stage as well as teaching acting and music. She enjoys being able to incorporate many of the theatre skills and activities she learned in her first career into her therapeutic practice. Cindy Marie Jenkins (she/her), Host & Creative Producer. I have written at the intersection of parenting, tech, and pop culture for over ten years, and in the entertainment industry for over twenty. As a published essayist/journalist in both international and national media, I always want to help families and educators. While Deputy Editor for JingKids Int’l, I discovered how to channel my rabbit hole research skills to help families into practical and emotionally open articles. That’s why I was excited to launch this venture to help families evaluate content creators on YouTube and have the dialogues needed to understand this new world. I am also grateful to the many readers and listeners who jumped on board! Shortly after graduating from NYU, I moved to Los Angeles where I was a Teaching Artist at multiple local nonprofits, such as CTGLA (Center Theatre Group), Safe Moves, the Virginia Avenue Project, Enrichment Works, before building and managing an arts education wing of Antaeus Company and expanding its professional classical Academy. For 15 years, I’ve run multiple workshops on arts marketing, outreach, and partnerships and was one of the first to pioneer digital marketing for Los Angeles theaters and nonprofits. Noticing that one gap between artists and potential audiences was curation, I produced and hosted review shows for both the emerging web series genre and traditional arts like live theatre. Now, I'm thrilled to use all of this experience in arts and higher education, theatre for young audiences, kids media literacy, writing, and outreach to present Taming of the Screens this spring. Deborah Lee Smith, Audio Editor Adam Emperor Southard, Theme Composer (also a fantastic photographer) Annie Collins, PR & Marketing Manager Annie Ruby, UI/UX & series logo Designer Angela Zhong, original Logo Designer/Out Think Media Produced by CMJ Communications LLC, DBA OutThink Media Who do you like to watch? Who should I review next? Read more: Reviews If you’d like extended, exclusive, and early interviews with our guests, please join the Patreon here. There is a free tier and it’s where we will build this community to help families.
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    35 mins
  • Bandit Dads: The Good, The Bad, and the Pop Culture Dad (an Out Think the Classics Minisode)
    Jun 16 2024
    "The role models, we just didn't have a whole lot....I wanted to be present." I'm lucky; I have a dads' group. I have a group of dads that I've been with for sixteen years. We started when the kids were 19 months old, and we went through fatherhood together, and we continue to do that....which means I have a group of guys to help mentor me through....That support and that mentorship, that's huge." -Shannon Carpenter “When we started watching Bluey, I was transfixed. I was so excited to see that kind of parenting reflected in a mass media outlet in that way, to just see that kind of idea reflected back and know there are people out there who take this more fun and loose approach to this kind of parenting. I remember screaming, 'This is a documentary!'” -Dan Jenkins Welcome back to “Out Think the Classics,” my own personal quest to contextualize classic pop culture for modern families. After our first series of Out Think the Classics, Exploring Evil, we ventured on to minisodes around representation and love in pop culture. We're thrilled to begin with an exploration of Dads, with special guests Shannon Carpenter (Author and Stay-at-Home-Dad) and Dan Jenkins (Creative Director, themed entertainment). We discuss: Carpenter and Jenkins' role models as DadsDads in pop culture who were good role models and not so greatHow Bluey and more modern representations feel more like their own Dad styles"Dads just do it different," what that means, and how it plays out in daily lifeWhere can Dads go for community? Up Next Out Think the Election, a 4-part podcast series on the history of media's role in elections, media literacy, and dialogues around the the hot topics your family will face this year. Subscribe to get a sneak peek of our next series Out Think the Election! The Out Think Team Cindy Marie Jenkins, (she/her), Host & Creative Producer Shannon Carpenter (he/him) is the author of The Ultimate Stay-at-Home Dad Manual and is a graduate of the famous Second City, where he refined his humor writing to capture the attention of audiences everywhere. Whether writing social satire, essays, or books, he is always able to find your funny bone and leave you with a lasting impression. "If we can change a tire, we can change a diaper." He has appeared on Good Morning America, CNN, MSNBC, The Wall Street Journal, Slate, NPR, Forbes, The Atlantic, and numerous other publications. Redbook magazine has named him as one of America’s “Adventure Dads.” Finally, BuzzFeed recognized him as one of the funniest women of the week in 2020, which was weird because he is not a woman. However, he is very funny. Dan Jenkins (he/him) is my own partner, and I don't use that term lightly. He's a Creative Director in the themed entertainment industry, and our kids refer to him as "The Fun One." Avi Glijanksy, Podcast Producer Adam Emperor Southard, Theme Composer (also a fantastic photographer in Michigan) Annie Collins, PR & Marketing Manager Angela Zhong, Logo Designer/Out Think Media Maria Pasquarelli, Canva Coordinator Produced by CMJ Communications LLC, DBA Out Think Media Help us out! Share the trailer here. Show Notes "A Goofy Movie: A Staple of Black Culture | READUS 101," La'Ron Readus, 9 Feb 2022, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFpidaNMGsA.BlueyTurf Valley ShowMr. Mom trailer (1983) Listen to Episodes 1-6 of "Out Think the Classics" (Exploring Evil)! Subscribe to get a sneak peek of our next series Out Think the Election!
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    33 mins
  • How the Grinch Stole His Own Legacy: Dr Seuss (Exploring Evil episode 6)
    Mar 29 2024
    “[Seuss] is only a reference. He has no impact on my artistry. He’s just a part of history. Now I move forward with other people that are more current, that allow me to tell stories differently, within the context of now. Was he a part of my life? Absolutely. But it is a historical moment now.” -Chil Kong Welcome back to “OutThink the Classics,” my own personal quest to contextualize classic pop culture for modern families. We conclude our first series, “Exploring Evil,” having walked down the yellow brick road, time jumped with The TVA, traveled between the world of the living and the dead, and now, visited a chocolate factory, and now it’s time to visit Whoville Please note that we discuss xenophobia, racism, WWII, Japanese internment camps, and grooming in this episode The OutThink Team Learn more about OutThink Media Cindy Marie Jenkins, Host & Creative Producer Chil Kong (he/him)began his career in theater garnering multiple awards for his innovative reimagining of American classics and developing groundbreaking new works as artistic director of theater companies in Boston, San Diego, Seattle, and in Los Angeles as the Co-Artistic Director of the critically acclaimed Lodestone Theatre Ensemble. After a successful career in theater, Chil was tapped as the creative director of a film fund that focused on English-based stories for the Asian market. He returned to his hometown in the DC area as the Artistic Director of Adventure Theatre and helmed the nationally recognized theater through COVID. He recently returned to TV to focus on the premiere of BOSSY BEAR on Nickelodeon, an animated TV show centered around two Korean American characters. Lauren Mazzarese (she/her) is a Licensed Professional Counselor who has been working as a therapist for the past 10 years. In her practice she focuses on several areas including substance abuse, trauma, LGBTQ+ issues, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder and ADHD. Part of her work with her clients often involves working with parents to address the mental and emotional health of their children. Lauren also has a background in theatre and spent several years performing on stage as well as teaching acting and music. She enjoys being able to incorporate many of the theatre skills and activities she learned in her first career into her therapeutic practice. Avi Glijanksy, Podcast Producer Adam Emperor Southard, Theme Composer (also a fantastic photographer) Annie Collins, PR & Marketing Manager Angela Zhong, Logo Designer/OutThink Media Maria Pasquarelli, Canva Coordinator Produced by CMJ Communications LLC, DBA OutThink Media Help us out! Share the trailer here. Show Notes “Baby it’s cold outside-Liza Minnelli and Alan Cumming,” uploaded to YouTube by Lizawithaz1246, 22 November 2009, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhR3j7l_wTo. Editors, “Dr Seuss: The Story Behind ‘The Cat in the Hat’,” Biography.com, 4 June 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhR3j7l_wTo. Caruso, Skyler, “A Timeline of Kevin Spacey’s Controversies, as He Faces Sexual Assault Trial in New York City,” People, 06 October 2022, https://people.com/tv/kevin-spacey-controversy-timeline/.Chiang, Desdemona, “Why The Mikado is Still Problematic: Cultural Appropriation 101,” Howlround Theatre Commons, 08 October 2015, https://howlround.com/why-mikado-still-problematic.Complexly, https://complexly.com/. Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “How the Bad Guys Teach Kid Empathy,” OutThink Media, 24 October, 2022.Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “Teaching Kids About Consent: The Cat in the Hat,” CindyMarieJenkins.com, 2 June 2022, https://www.cindymariejenkins.com/my-portfolio/2022/6/2/teach-kids-about-consent-the-cat-in-the-hat .McLaughlin, Rhett, “Thoughts on Confederate Statues from a Southern White Male, 17 August 2017, https://medium.com/@rhettmc/thoughts-on-confederate-statues-from-a-southern-white-male-b81a2693113d. “My Mister (2018),” My Drama List, https://mydramalist.com/25172-my-ajusshi. Listen to more episodes
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  • Willy Wonka, Roald Dahl, and Separating the Art From the Artist (Exploring Evil episode 5)
    Dec 22 2023
    “Daddy gave joy to millions of children but I was dying inside.” -Lucy Dahl “Just because it’s on the printed page doesn’t mean it’s the only way to think.” -Madeleine Mager Deliee Welcome back to “OutThink the Classics,” my own personal quest to contextualize classic pop culture for modern families. We continue our first series, “Exploring Evil,” exploring the concept of evil in classical stories and how it relates to parenting and kids. We’ve walked the yellow brick road, time jumped with The TVA, Traveled between the world of the living and the dead, and now, it’s time to visit a chocolate factory. Please note that when we discuss the Oompa Loompas: OutThink Media follows the writing guidelines for inclusion set forth in Respect Ability: “Appropriate terms include little person, person of short stature, dwarf or LP, though it is most respectful to refer to someone just by name. The word “midget” is considered highly offensive. A little person may choose not to identify as a person with a disability or part of the disability community.” The OutThink Team Learn more about OutThink Media Cindy Marie Jenkins, Host & Creative Producer Madeleine Mager Deliee (Special Guest) is an Educator, mom, and writer in the Washington D.C. area. Avi Glijanksy, Podcast Producer Adam Emperor Southard, Theme Composer (also a fantastic photographer) Annie Collins, PR & Marketing Manager Angela Zhong, Logo Designer/OutThink Media Maria Pasquarelli, Canva Coordinator Produced by CMJ Communications LLC, DBA OutThink Media Help us out! Share the trailer here. Show Notes Deliee, Madeleine, “ ‘Fosse/Verdon’ and the Question of the Genius Pass,” Shondaland, 24 April 2019, https://www.shondaland.com/watch/a27228016/fosse-verdon-and-the/ .Ground News, https://ground.news/Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “How the Bad Guys Teach Kid Empathy,” OutThink Media, 24 October, 2022.(2013). Alston, Ann & Butler, Catherine, eds. 2012. Roald Dahl. https://core.ac.uk/download/481858497.pdfJenkins, Cindy Marie, “Oakland’s Lynchings,” VoxPopuli Winter Garden, 10 March 2022, https://www.wintergardenvox.com/post/oakland-s-lynchings .Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “Teaching Kids About Consent: The Cat in the Hat,” CindyMarieJenkins.com, 2 June 2022, https://www.cindymariejenkins.com/my-portfolio/2022/6/2/teach-kids-about-consent-the-cat-in-the-hat .Lamadrid, Amanda, “Very Uncomfortable: Hugh Grant Gets Brutally Honest About Filming Wonka As An Oompa-Loompa,” ScreenRant, 2 December 2023, https://screenrant.com/wonka-movie-hugh-grant-oompa-loompa-experience-uncomfortable/ .Satrapi, Marjane, “Persepolis, The Story of a Childhood,” Penguin Randm House, 1 June 2004, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/160890/persepolis-by-marjane-satrapi/ .Sherwood, Harriet, “Roald Dahl museum acknowledges author’s antisemitism,” The Guardian, 19 July 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jul/19/roald-dahl-museum-acknowledges-authors-antisemitism .Vernon, Hayden, “Roald Dahl books rewritten to remove language deemed offensive,” The Guardian, 18 February 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive .Read more “Wonka, MrBeast, and Clickbait Philanthropy”
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  • Studio Ghibli’s ”The Boy and the Heron:” When a Master Paints Himself as the Villain (Exploring Evil episode 4)
    Dec 7 2023

    “I don't intentionally make deep movies.”

    -Hayao Miyazaki

    Welcome back to “OutThink the Classics,” my quest to contextualize classic pop culture for modern families.

    We continue our first series, “Exploring Evil,” exploring the concept of evil in classical stories and how it relates to parenting and kids. Episodes 1-3 discussed the Wicked Witch of the West (and Auntie Em) and just finished Loki Seasons 1 and 2. Now it’s time to explore the renowned Studio Ghibli, the man behind its success and impact on our culture, and why he cast himself as the villain for his last film.

    THE BOY AND THE HERON opening December 8 Synopsis: A young boy named Mahito, yearning for his mother, ventures into a world shared by the living and the dead. There, death comes to an end, and life finds a new beginning. Mahito’s guide is part-heron, part-man, and cunningly juggles lies and the truth. The boy makes new friends, reunites with his mother, and meets the world’s creator, the Granduncle. “The Boy and the Heron” is a fantasy film with an element of semi-autobiography. Its Japanese title, “Kimitachi wa Do Ikiruka” (published in Japan by Shinchosha), literally meaning “How do you live?”, is borrowed from an eponymous novel by Genzaburo Yoshino that filmmaker Hayao Miyazaki was given in his youth by his mother. What’s more, certain events from Miyazaki’s childhood are depicted in this new animated feature for the first time ever.

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    1. Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “How the Bad Guys Teach Kid Empathy,” OutThink Media, 24 October, 2022.
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  • Loki Part 2 with Dr. Drea Letamendi & Julia Washington (Exploring Evil, episode 3)
    Nov 29 2023
    “You realize that it's not a parent's job to tell children who they are. It's a parent's job to meet their children where they are and help them grow into the person that they are, you could say, destined to become.” -Julia Washington Welcome back to “OutThink the Classics,” my own personal quest to contextualize classic pop culture for modern families. We continue our first series, “Exploring Evil,” exploring the concept of evil in classical stories and how it relates to parenting and kids. Part 2 of Loki welcomes Julia Washington & Dr. Drea Letamendi to our library to connect Loki to parenting, psychology, and pop culture. The OutThink Team Learn more about OutThink Media Cindy Marie Jenkins, Host & Creative Producer Julia Washington & Dr. Drea Letamendi, Special Guests Dr. Drea Letamendi (she/her/ella) is a clinical psychologist, media consultant, and two-time TEDx speaker with degrees and training from Cornell University, UCSD, and UCLA. For 3 years, Dr. Drea served as the Interim Director of the Resilience Center at UCLA known as “RISE.” As the Associate Director of Mental Health Training, Intervention, and Response for UCLA's Residential Life, she leads projects in the areas of resilience, crisis-response, and suicide prevention. Dr. Drea has a private practice as a behavioral health advisor for the gaming, visual effects, and entertainment media industries (including Warner Bros, Disney, and Riot games), and has written publications about the positive impacts of media storytelling on mental health, as covered in the Atlantic, the Guardian, and the Los Angeles Times. She created and hosts The Arkham Sessions, a podcast about the psychology of Batman and other pop culture narratives. Her latest publication with Springer is titled, The Force Awakens: Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Using Star Wars. Julia Washington is an artist, writer, and podcast host. In 2014 she was one of 14 writers for the inaugural community novel facilitated by the Stanislaus County Library. In 2017 her story 'That Face' was published in the Penman Review. She is the creator and host of Pop Culture Makes Me Jealous and Jelly Pops Book Club podcasts. Her hand-painted greeting card designs are not your mother’s Hallmark cards. Her hand-poured candles are literary-themed and come with a book recommendation. She currently lives in Modesto, California where she teeters between existential dread and watching too much television. You can find her on Instagram or TikTok @thejuliawashington. Avi Glijanksy, Podcast Producer Adam Emperor Southard, Theme Composer (also a fantastic photographer) Annie Collins, PR & Marketing Manager Angela Zhong, Logo Designer/OutThink Media Maria Pasquarelli, Canva Coordinator Produced by CMJ Communications LLC, DBA OutThink Media Help us out! Share the trailer here. Show Notes Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “How the Bad Guys Teach Kid Empathy,” OutThink Media, 24 October, 2022.“Loki,” Pop Culture Makes Me Jealous, Season 2, Episode 14, https://www.popculturemakesmejealous.com/listen/loki . “The Politics of Loving the Bad Guy,” Princess Weekes on YouTube, 24 February 2023, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JewRMqUErNg . Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “The Marvels: When the Villain is the Hero of Their Own Story,” OutThink Media, 11 November 2023, https://outthinkmedia.com/2023/11/11/the-marvels-when-the-villain-is-the-hero-of-their-own-story/ . “Finding Your Roots,” PBS, https://www.pbs.org/show/finding-your-roots/ .Instagram and TikTok @thejuliawashingtonEpisode 168: Loki, The Arkham Sessions, https://drdreapsychology.com/thearkhamsessionspodcast .Letamendi, Drea, “The God of Mischief Who Would be King: The Psychology of Loki, Fandom, 3 June 2021, https://www.fandom.com/articles/loki-psychology-mcu-marvel.CPPA Students, “Peudaimonia: Positive Psychology Series,” Medium, 20 July 2021, https://cppastudents.medium.com/peudaimonia-positive-psychology-concept-series-91da936944a2
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