PR Future, the USC Center for Public Relations Podcast cover art

PR Future, the USC Center for Public Relations Podcast

PR Future, the USC Center for Public Relations Podcast

Written by: USC Annenberg Center for Public Relations Fred Cook University of Southern California
Listen for free

The PR Future podcast from the USC Center for Public Relations (CPR) provides insight into the future of public relations and strategic communication. Student-produced and directed, the podcast originates from the USC Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism and is hosted by CPR Director and Golin Chairman Emeritus Fred Cook. Each season features discussions with public relations executives, academics, students and more as part of our mission to define the future of our industry and to develop those who will shape it. Past episodes have explored AI's growing role in PR, corporate and youth activism, media polarization and disinformation, brand purpose, and workplace culture — with conversations featuring leaders from Hollywood, Levi's, Ben & Jerry's, and top global agencies. Join us each fall and spring for discussions about the future of public relations, and audio replays of special events hosted by the Center for Public Relations. Join us each fall and spring for discussions about the future of public relations, plus audio replays of special events hosted by the Center for Public Relations.2020–2026 University of Southern California Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • How GEO is changing the PR Industry
    Apr 15 2026
    The future of search is here, and it's being rewritten by AI. In this episode, host Fred Cook sits down with Michael Sullivan and Lindsey Bastani from We. Communications to unpack the rise of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO), the new frontier that every brand, marketer, and PR agency needs to understand. As AI search engines reshape how people discover information, Michael and Lindsey break down what GEO is, why it's growing so fast, and what it means for the way businesses communicate online. Whether you're a marketing pro, a student, or just curious about where search is headed, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss. Production Credits A production of the USC Annenberg Center for Public Relations at the University of Southern California. Host: Fred Cook Executive Producer: Ron Antonette Season 7 Producers: Joe Carreon and Anvi Mahajan Production: Camille Culbertson, Jack Gisler, Toma Battino Editorial: Joey Cha, Ivan Feng, Natalie Lopez, Grace An Social Content: Angelina Tran, Hailey Evans, Arushi Purkayastha, Chris Apy Growth: Van Luu, Shaan Dhaliwal Links Follow the USC Center for PR (@usccenterforpr) on Instagram and LinkedIn. Follow Fred Cook on LinkedIn. Find all our reports at annenberg.usc.edu/cpr. Download the 2026 Relevance Report at annenberg.usc.edu/relevance
    Show More Show Less
    37 mins
  • Inside Hollywood PR: A Conversation with Simon Halls
    Dec 1 2025
    Guest

    Simon Halls — Co-Founder, Apex Public Relations; USC alum; one of the most influential entertainment publicists working today

    Host: Fred Cook, Director, USC Center for Public Relations

    Discussion Breakdown

    Introduction to Simon’s Career — 0:00

    From USC to Warner Bros: A Non-Linear Start — 1:07

    Launching McDonald’s in Russia & Early Global PR Lessons — 3:16

    Returning to the U.S. and Joining Golin — 5:42

    Founding an Agency Before 30 (and Signing Future Icons) — 7:30

    Scaling to PMK & Building a Global Entertainment PR Firm — 8:30

    Returning to Boutique PR: Quality, Focus, and Client Loyalty — 10:30

    How Technology Has Changed PR Workflows — 11:20

    Why There Are More Entertainment Crises Than Ever — 13:06

    Correcting Stories vs. Pitching Stories — 14:30

    Why Relationships Are Still Everything in Entertainment PR — 15:50

    Keeping Clients for 30+ Years — 18:24

    Fashion, Brand Deals & How PR Intersects With Consumer Products — 20:11

    Taylor Swift vs. The New York Times: What Actually Drives Audiences? — 22:22

    Critic Scores vs. Audience Scores (Rotten Tomatoes and CinemaScore) — 24:46

    Can PR Influence Reviews? Building “Champions” for a Film — 26:30

    The Rise of Podcasts in Entertainment Campaigns — 30:22

    Career Advice: Hiring, Internships & What He Looks For — 34:01

    The Future of Entertainment PR: AI, Ethics, Adaptation — 36:29

    Polarization, Hollywood, and Free Speech — 38:53

    Closing Thoughts & Fight On — 42:33

    Key Insights1. Great PR Careers Are Built on Adaptability — and Luck

    Simon’s path — from Warner Bros intern to global publicist to founder of Apex — underscores how timing, curiosity, and willingness to jump into unfamiliar territory can set you apart in entertainment PR. His early experience launching McDonald’s in Russia shaped how he approached global media and crisis situations for the rest of his career.

    2. Relationships Are Still the Currency of Entertainment PR

    Despite texting, email, and shrinking newsrooms, Simon emphasizes that trust, honesty, and consistent contact with journalists remain the foundation of the business. “The second you lose integrity with the press, you’re done.”

    3. Audience Scores Matter More Than Critics Now

    While traditional reviews once shaped box office, today’s audiences look to Rotten Tomatoes audience scores, CinemaScore, and social buzz — prompting PR teams to focus on grassroots credibility and “champion building” with trusted culture editors.

    4. Podcasts Are the New Press Tour

    Simon’s internal research shows the most successful movie campaigns of 2024–2025 leaned heavily on podcasts — often more than traditional entertainment outlets. Actors now view podcasting as a friendly, long-form platform to shape narrative and deepen fan connection.

    5. AI Will Transform Entertainment — and Raise New Ethical Challenges

    From customizable film endings to synthetic performances, Simon warns that emerging AI capabilities will force Hollywood to confront questions of consent, compensation, and artistic integrity. PR teams must prepare to navigate this shifting landscape.

    6. Loyalty Comes From Shared Journeys, Not Contracts

    Many of Simon’s clients have been with him for 30 years. Why? Deep trust, shared decision-making, crisis navigation, and a “family-like” partnership that has survived both career lows and Oscar wins.

    Production Credits

    A production of the USC Annenberg Center for Public Relations at the University of Southern California.

    Host: Fred Cook
    Executive Producer: Ron Antonette

    Season 7 Producers: Joe Carreon and Anvi Mahajan
    Production: Camille Culbertson, Jack Gisler, Toma Battino
    Editorial: Joey Cha, Ivan Feng, Natalie Lopez, Grace An
    Social Content: Angelina Tran, Hailey Evans, Arushi Purkayastha, Chris Apy
    Growth: Van Luu, Shaan Dhaliwal

    Links

    Follow the USC Center for PR (@usccenterforpr) on Instagram and LinkedIn.
    Follow Fred Cook on LinkedIn.
    Find all our reports at annenberg.usc.edu/cpr.

    Download the 2026 Relevance Report at
    annenberg.usc.edu/relevance

    Show More Show Less
    43 mins
  • Interviewing AI About The Future of PR: A Conversation with Rupert
    Nov 24 2025
    Guests

    Rupert — AI persona created by Joe Carreon

    Student Interviewers: Toma Battino, Joe Carreon

    Host: Fred Cook, Director, USC Center for Public Relations

    Discussion Breakdown

    Introducing Rupert — 0:00

    How AI Is Impacting PR — 0:45

    Will AI Replace Entry-Level Jobs? — 1:40

    Who’s Adopting AI Faster — Young or Experienced Pros? — 3:06

    Passion Projects & Standing Out in PR — 4:20

    GEO (Generative Engineered Optimization) Explained — 5:10

    Authenticity, AI, and the Fight Against Polarization — 6:39

    AI Search vs. Google Search — 7:30

    What Tools PR Students Should Know — 7:55

    Crisis Communications in an AI World — 9:15

    Ethics, Consent & Using Likeness in AI Content — 13:30

    Should You Disclose When You Use AI? — 14:55

    Common Blind Spots in AI Usage — 15:40

    Accuracy & Where AI Gets Its Information — 16:31

    How PR Shapes the Information AI Pulls From — 17:46

    Managing Brand Reputation in the Age of AI — 17:58

    How AI Perceives USC Annenberg — 18:50

    What Professors Should Teach About AI — 19:13

    What Rupert Looks For in New PR Hires — 20:20

    Where AI Is Going in the Next 2–3 Years — 21:40

    Should We Be Scared or Excited? — 22:07

    Closing & Fight On — 22:53

    Key Insights1. AI Won’t Replace PR — It Will Redefine It

    Rupert positions AI as a shift, not a takeover. Routine tasks will be automated, but strategy, creativity, and relationships remain uniquely human. Entry-level roles will evolve, not disappear.

    2. PR Professionals Must Build “AI Visibility”

    With people turning to AI for search, GEO becomes essential. Communicators will need to create content that AI can understand, trust, and surface — marking a new era of “authentic earned media.”

    3. AI Can Support, Not Substitute, Crisis Communications

    Rupert identifies monitoring, rapid analysis, and early messaging as AI’s strengths in crises — but empathy, accountability, and credibility must come from humans.

    4. Ethical Use of Likeness & Transparency Matter

    Students challenge Rupert about consent, deepfakes, and whether creators should disclose AI involvement. Rupert stresses transparent use (for now) and careful respect for identity and likeness.

    5. AI Literacy Is Now a Resume Essential

    From media monitoring to analytics to content drafting, students entering PR need demonstrable experience with:

    AI writing tools

    Social analytics software

    Media monitoring platforms

    Data interpretation & ethical judgment

    6. Future AI Will Be Predictive, Personalized, and Creative

    Rupert envisions AI that:

    Adapts messaging in real time

    Predicts PR issues before they surface

    Assists with brainstorming and strategic planning

    Engages audiences in one-to-one communication at scale

    Production Credits

    A production of the USC Annenberg Center for Public Relations at the University of Southern California.

    Host: Fred Cook
    Executive Producer: Ron Antonette

    Season 7 Producers: Joe Carreon and Anvi Mahajan
    Production: Camille Culbertson, Jack Gisler, Toma Battino
    Editorial: Joey Cha, Ivan Feng, Natalie Lopez, Grace An
    Social Content: Angelina Tran, Hailey Evans, Arushi Purkayastha, Chris Apy
    Growth: Van Luu, Shaan Dhaliwal

    Links

    Follow the USC Center for PR (@usccenterforpr) on Instagram and LinkedIn.
    Follow Fred Cook on LinkedIn.
    Find all our reports at annenberg.usc.edu/cpr.

    Download the 2026 Relevance Report at
    annenberg.usc.edu/relevance

    Show More Show Less
    22 mins
adbl_web_anon_alc_button_suppression_t1
No reviews yet