What actually happens the moment we die? In this episode of Pastor Pastor, Rob invites Wes into a thoughtful, hope-filled conversation about death, heaven, and what lies ahead both for those in Christ and for those outside of Him. Wes shares what Scripture teaches about being with the Lord, the promise of resurrection, and the sober realities of judgment, while also considering why facing death honestly can deepen our faith and shape how we live today.

Why would a man who has pastored for over 30 years, earned two seminary degrees, planted a thriving church, and launched a successful church planting ministry, earn a PhD? For the sake of his own soul, and for yours. As Season 3 begins, Wes gets personal about what it means to be "free indeed" and shares how this vital truth can profoundly affect your life and your church.

In this season finale, Wes tackles one of Christianity’s essential doctrines: the hypostatic union—Jesus Christ as fully God and fully man. Wes shows why this truth undergirds our entire hope of salvation. As Advent draws our attention to the mystery of the incarnation, this episode draws us closer to the true meaning of Christmas, with a compelling reminder of who Jesus is and why that matters, not only at Christmas, but throughout the year.