This episode is part two of a two-part series where Mike sits down with people whom are involved in the preservation of Aiken, to discuss the town, the importance of Historic preservation, and the impact this court ruling has on not only Aiken, and South Carolina, but also the rest of the United States! Joining for part 2 is Mike Rose, who is the Attorney representing the plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the city of Aiken, as well as Donovan Rypkema who is a leader in the preservation space and how it can lead to sustainable economic activity.

This episode is part one of a two part series where Mike sits down with people whom are involved in the preservation of Aiken, to discuss the town, the importance of Historic preservation, and the impact a court ruling has on not only Aiken, and South Carolina, but also the rest of the United States! Joining for part 1 is Christopher King, an Aiken native who lives in Charleston and has dedicated his career to real estate development and historic preservation.

Joining Mike today is Rudy Barnes. The two discuss how Rudy sees the teaching of Jesus fit into American responsibility, how he became a Methodist Minister, and the importance of coming back to a strong set of morals realign our nation. Mike and Rudy also dive into the obsession American's have with the two parties, and the idea of American exceptionalism. Lastly, Rudy answers the question of whether or not America really is a Christian nation.