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Phil Hails-Smith: Managing Partner at Joelson

Phil Hails-Smith: Managing Partner at Joelson

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In this episode of Leading by Nature, Giles Hutchins is joined by Phil Hails-Smith, Managing Partner at Joelson, as the firm celebrates its 70th year in operation.


Phil reflects on how Joelson has evolved into a purpose-led business and why embedding purpose creates meaning across every aspect of the organisation. He shares how the firm works closely with founders and entrepreneurs, helping them scale and grow in ways that are both commercially successful and sustainable.


The conversation also explores the opportunities and tensions created by AI, from its transformative potential to the cognitive dissonance many leaders feel as technology accelerates faster than our ability to adapt. Phil explains why he’s passionate about using business as a force to push forward new ways of thinking, and how Joelson became part of the first wave of law firms to achieve B Corp status.


And finally, Phil reflects on what resonated most from Keys for Future-Fit Leadership and what it means to lead in a way that balances performance, purpose and responsibility.



For more information on Leading by Nature, you can follow Giles Hutchins on LinkedIn, or visit gileshutchins.com for free downloads of tools and practices for regenerative leadership and future fit business. And watch out for his book, Leading by Nature: The Process of Becoming a Regenerative Leader.


Giles' latest book is Keys for Future Fit Leadership - From Coping to Thriving Amid Rising Complexity, which can be purchased directly from the sustainable/local publishers here and shipped globally, and you can watch a short video about it here.

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