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Physicians and Properties

Physicians and Properties

Written by: Dr. Alex Schloe
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Welcome to the Physicians and Properties Podcast, where we teach you how to leverage real estate investing to be happy and free in the hospital and at home. I am your host, Dr. Alex Schloe.


Each week, we will bring you expert interviews and life-changing insights from incredibly successful physicians, healthcare workers, and real estate investors who have realized that investing in real estate can provide you the freedom to practice medicine and live life how you want.


Listen in as we explore different real estate investment strategies, learn how to balance real estate investing and practicing medicine, and discover the secrets that others have used to obtain financial freedom.


Whether you are a seasoned real estate investor or just starting out, heck, even if you are not a physician, I promise that you will learn something to help you become more successful, happy, and free.


If you want to learn how investing in real estate can give you the freedom to practice medicine and live life how you want then check out the links below:

Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/physiciansandproperties

Website: https://physiciansandproperties.com/

Instagram: @physiciansandproperties

Youtube: https://youtube.com/@physiciansandproperties


Connect with Dr. Alex Schloe here:

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Instagram: @aschloe3



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  • From Direct Primary Care To Real Estate With Dr. Amy Couturier
    May 13 2026

    🎙️ 𝗪𝗲𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝗵𝘆𝘀𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗗𝗿. 𝗔𝗹𝗲𝘅 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲.

    💡 What if real estate was not just an investment strategy… but a learnable skill that could help physicians create more freedom, flexibility, and long-term wealth?

    In today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Amy Couturier, a general pediatrician, entrepreneur, former direct primary care physician, and now real estate professional based in Traverse City, Michigan.

    Amy’s journey started long before medicine. Growing up, she watched her immigrant parents build wealth through real estate, collect rent checks, work on properties, care for tenants, and model what it looks like to take risks, work hard, and build something meaningful for your family.

    In this conversation, we talk about physician identity, entrepreneurship, the emotional difficulty of stepping outside the traditional medical path, using physician loans creatively, evaluating investment properties, and why physicians need trusted advocates when buying real estate.

    🔥 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂’𝗹𝗹 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻:
    ✔️ How Amy’s early exposure to rentals shaped her view of money, risk, and ownership
    ✔️ Why her parents’ immigrant story deeply influenced her work ethic and entrepreneurial mindset
    ✔️ How Teach For America helped shape her path into pediatrics
    ✔️ The challenges of running a solo DPC practice as a physician, wife, and mother
    ✔️ How physician loans can become a powerful real estate tool
    ✔️ What physicians should look for when evaluating short-term rental and investment properties
    ✔️ Why having a physician realtor can help protect doctors from being taken advantage of

    🔥 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝗧𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:
    ✅ Real estate is a learnable skill, just like medicine
    ✅ You are not your profession, and your identity can be bigger than your job title
    ✅ Physicians do not have to stay trapped in one version of success
    ✅ Starting slowly can reduce risk and help you build confidence
    ✅ Physician loans can offer unique financing opportunities if you know where to look
    ✅ The right property should match your goals, risk tolerance, and desired lifestyle
    ✅ Great real estate decisions start with clarity, not just chasing deals
    ✅ A trusted realtor who understands physicians can be a major advantage

    If you’ve ever wondered whether it is okay to love medicine but still want more freedom…

    Or if you’ve ever thought about real estate but felt unsure where to start…

    𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗴𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘆 𝘀𝘁𝘂𝗰𝗸 𝗶𝗻 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗵. 𝗬𝗼𝘂 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗺𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗲, 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝘄𝗲𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗵, 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗻 𝗮 𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗳𝗶𝘁𝘀 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗳𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗹𝘆, 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗴𝗼𝗮𝗹𝘀.

    Connect with Dr. Amy Couturier:

    • LinkedIn
    • Instagram

    If you want to learn how investing in real estate can give you the freedom to practice medicine and live life how you want then check out the links below:

    Facebook Community
    Website
    Instagram
    Youtube
    Invest With Me
    Join The RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind


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    44 mins
  • How To Buy A Cash-Flowing Business As A Physician with Dr. Chiagozie Fawole
    May 6 2026

    🎙️ 𝗪𝗲𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝗵𝘆𝘀𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗗𝗿. 𝗔𝗹𝗲𝘅 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲.

    💡 What if buying an already profitable business could accelerate your path to financial freedom faster than starting from scratch?

    In today’s episode, I’m joined by returning guest Dr. Chiagozie Fawole, pediatric anesthesiologist, entrepreneur, real estate investor, author of the STR Blueprint, and now an active voice in the world of business acquisition. This conversation picks up where our last episode left off, but this time we go deep into why buying businesses has become such an exciting long-term wealth-building strategy for physicians.

    Chiagozie shares how she first got introduced to business buying during the pandemic, why it took time to truly see herself as a buyer, and what changed when she started understanding the numbers. We dive into physician identity, evaluating opportunity, buying versus building, roll-up strategies, financing options, due diligence, and why physicians may have far more leverage in this space than they realize.

    🔥 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂’𝗹𝗹 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻:
    ✔️ Why buying a business can create significantly more cash flow than many traditional investments
    ✔️ The five criteria she uses to evaluate businesses worth buying
    ✔️ Why buying can often be less risky than building from scratch
    ✔️ How roll-ups and valuation multiples create massive upside in business acquisitions
    ✔️ What physicians need to understand about SDE, EBITDA, and business valuation
    ✔️ The many ways to finance a business, including SBA, seller financing, and physician practice loans
    ✔️ Why physicians should look in their own field first when exploring acquisitions

    🔥 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝗧𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:
    ✅ Buying the right business can give you cash flow from day one
    ✅ A bigger business is often better than a tiny one because it can support an operator and true scalability
    ✅ Physicians may be uniquely positioned to buy and improve healthcare-related businesses
    ✅ Financing a business can be far more flexible than most people realize
    ✅ Great deals are made in due diligence, not just in the initial offer
    ✅ Clarity on your goals and buy box matters before you start chasing deals
    ✅ The right acquisition can create both freedom now and wealth later

    If you’ve ever wondered whether physicians can build wealth outside of medicine, but still are not sure what it looks like to buy a business the right way…

    𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗴𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗰𝗵. 𝗦𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗼𝗺 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝘂𝘆 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮𝗹𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗶𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿.

    Connect with Dr. Chiagozie Fawole

    • LinkedIn
    • Website
    • Facebook

    If you want to learn how investing in real estate can give you the freedom to practice medicine and live life how you want then check out the links below:

    Facebook Community
    Website
    Instagram
    Youtube
    Invest With Me
    Join The RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind


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    58 mins
  • You Are More Than Just A Doctor With Dr. Steven Bishop
    Apr 29 2026

    🎙️ 𝗪𝗲𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝗵𝘆𝘀𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗗𝗿. 𝗔𝗹𝗲𝘅 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲.

    💡 What if the biggest thing holding physicians back is not a lack of intelligence or opportunity but a limiting belief that they are “just doctors”?

    In today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Steven Bishop, board-certified internist, former academic leader at VCU, founder of a direct primary care practice, interim CEO and CMO of Commonwealth Sterile Solutions, and an investor in both real estate and Bitcoin. This conversation felt especially full circle for me because Dr. Bishop was actually one of my clerkship directors back in medical school.

    Steven shares his journey from academic medicine to concierge medicine to launching a “practice without walls” direct primary care model built around house calls, family, faith, flexibility, and freedom.

    This conversation is about a lot more than career transitions. We talk about physician identity, entrepreneurship, direct primary care, investing, startup leadership, faith, family, mission work, and the courage it takes to stop settling for the default path and start building a life that is more aligned, intentional, and free.

    🔥 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂’𝗹𝗹 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻:
    ✔️ Why many physicians are far more capable of leading and building than they realize
    ✔️ How fear, debt, and limiting beliefs keep doctors stuck in careers that no longer fit
    ✔️ Dr. Bishop’s transition from academic medicine to concierge medicine to direct primary care
    ✔️ How he built a low-overhead, house call-based DPC practice designed around lifestyle and flexibility
    ✔️ Why investing early can create optionality and make career pivots less risky
    ✔️ What physicians can learn from startup leadership and building mission-driven companies
    ✔️ Why doctors should have a larger voice in shaping healthcare businesses and systems
    ✔️ How faith, family, and mission work have shaped Dr. Bishop’s view of success

    🔥 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝗧𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:
    ✅ You are not “just a doctor.” Physicians are capable of leading, building, and investing at a very high level
    ✅ Financial freedom is really about optionality and having more choices
    ✅ Investing early can create the breathing room needed to make aligned career changes
    ✅ Direct primary care can be structured around the lifestyle and family priorities you actually want
    ✅ Faith, service, and family can be central drivers in how you build your career
    ✅ Real freedom is built slowly through intentional decisions, not overnight success

    If you’ve ever felt like there has to be more than the traditional physician path…

    but still are not sure what it looks like to build a life on your own terms…

    𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗻𝗼𝘁 “𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗮 𝗱𝗼𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿” 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝗮 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗺𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗻𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗿𝗲.


    Connect with Dr. Steven Bishop:

    • Website
    • X

    If you want to learn how investing in real estate can give you the freedom to practice medicine and live life how you want then check out the links below:

    Facebook Community
    Website
    Instagram
    Youtube
    Invest With Me
    Join The RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind


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    49 mins
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