What happens when kids are given time, space, and stuff? Real stuff. Junk. Tools. Magnets. Hot glue guns.

In this episode of the Play Nature Podcast, host Rusty Keeler is talking to Erik Herman to explore what play, tinkering, and science can look like when curiosity leads the way.

Erik is a former classroom teacher who followed his passion out of formal education and into the wild, wonderful world of informal learning. He’s the force behind the Free Science Workshop and the Physics Bus. Both places where kids choose what to explore, how long to explore it, and who to explore it with.

Rusty draws connections between Erik’s work and adventure playgrounds, community tinkering spaces, and our deeply human need to make things—together.

This conversation wanders (in the best way) through barns full of junk. And through the difference between explaining and experiencing.

Freedom matters, messes are meaningful, and innovation needs room to breathe. Erik and Rusty agree on letting physics speak for itself, and remembering that we are three-dimensional beings in a very hands-on world

Links:

www.freescienceworkshop.org

www.communityscienceworkshops.org

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Winter. Ice cracking at the creek. Water freezing in buckets and balloons. Rusty is back outside, thinking out loud, when an aha arrives. One of those deep ones. The kind that doesn’t land all at once. The kind you keep unpacking for a lifetime.

This episode of the Play Nature Podcast is all about that moment, a shift in how play is seen, felt, and trusted.

Rusty reflects on being a lifelong believer in play. Free play. Messy play. Nature play. Loose parts. Mud kitchens. Risky moments. The real stuff. Yes, research helps. Yes, play checks the boxes for STEM, literacy, social-emotional growth. But those labels only skim the surface.

Rusty reminds us that our role isn’t to interrupt or translate every moment, but to create the conditions, protect the space, and advocate fiercely for play in the adult world. You are not alone. We are believers in play. And we are in this together.

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Welcome to Season 2 of the Play Nature Podcast! A full circle around the sun. A new season of listening begins.

Winter has arrived (at least in Ithaca, NY). Cold. Snow. Gray skies. And…PLAY.

In this episode of the Play Nature Podcast, Rusty Keeler bundles up and steps into winter to give us the next installment of his Seasons of Play series, reminding us that this final season matters just as much as the others.

From ice sculptures and colored snow to fairy huts, fires, and winter wandering, Rusty invites us to slow down and notice what winter offers. The angle of the sun. The crunch of snow. The quiet. The light we carry inside when the world feels gray.

With simple stories and practical ideas, this episode reframes winter not as something to endure, but something to experience.

Season 2 is just getting started and Rusty would love to hear from you! Email playnaturepodcast@gmail.com to share pictures of winter play and colorful snow, your favorite moment from Season 1, or a question you would like answered in an upcoming episode.

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