Episodes

  • 370 | CCPT Gamechangers: How to Respond When Adults Say Kids Are Rational
    Jan 29 2026

    In this Game Changers episode, I tackle one of the most common objections we hear from adults: "If children aren't rational or cognitive, how do they learn in school?" I explain why this question reflects an adulthood bias and how academic learning is often misunderstood as evidence of reasoning, logic, and abstract thinking. I break down the critical distinction between conditioned, repetitive learning and true cognitive processing, and why confusing the two leads adults to expect things from children that they simply are not developmentally capable of giving.

    I also offer a clear, practical way to respond when parents, teachers, or other professionals challenge the CCPT model on this point. By reframing school-based learning as memorization through repetition—rather than reasoning—we can help adults understand why children process their world emotionally and experientially, not verbally or logically. This episode gives you language, confidence, and a framework for engaging in these conversations in a way that protects the model, strengthens trust, and fundamentally changes how adults view children.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    15 mins
  • 369 | Understanding Time and Touch in Child-Centered Play Therapy
    Jan 26 2026

    In this episode, I answer two questions that touch on both the clinical and relational demands of child-centered play therapy. First, I address why the average number of CCPT sessions has shifted over time from 20–30 to more commonly 30–40 sessions. I share my perspective on what has changed in children's lives—screen exposure, loss of free play, increased anxiety, overdiagnosis, and broader cultural shifts—and how these factors affect children's baseline regulation and their capacity to do therapeutic work. I also explain how to communicate timelines to parents in a way that is honest, grounded, and not overwhelming by focusing on five-session increments rather than long-term commitments.

    In the second half of the episode, I respond to a question about physical boundaries in the playroom, particularly with children who are highly relational, sensory-seeking, or physically expressive. I explain why children naturally use physical touch to communicate connection and why our work requires flexibility, self-awareness, and a willingness to shift personal comfort zones when appropriate. I also clarify when limits are truly needed and when discomfort belongs to the therapist rather than the child. Throughout the discussion, I return to one central principle: preserving the therapeutic relationship at all costs while maintaining safety, appropriateness, and unconditional acceptance.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    25 mins
  • 368 | CCPT Gamechangers: The Hidden Problem with Battery-Operated Toys
    Jan 20 2026

    In this episode of the CCPT Game Changers series, I take a close look at battery-operated toys in the playroom and why they require much more intentional consideration than we often give them. I explain how toys are selected—not collected—and why simplicity, creativity, and non-prescriptive design are essential for preserving true child-centeredness. Many battery-driven toys introduce noise, music, scripts, or actions that interrupt the child's flow and subtly direct the play in ways that interfere with the therapeutic process.

    I walk through how to evaluate whether batteries actually serve a meaningful, real-world function or whether they distract from the child's needs. Using concrete examples, I explain when batteries may be appropriate (such as emergency vehicles or walkie-talkies) and when they undermine the child's autonomy and imaginative work. This episode is about refining discernment in the playroom—removing unnecessary distractions, protecting the child's freedom, and ensuring every toy supports, rather than interrupts, the child's therapeutic journey.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    13 mins
  • 367 | Night Terrors, Adoption, and Age-Appropriate Truth
    Jan 15 2026

    In this episode, I respond to a question about a six-year-old client with a history of early instability who has experienced recurring night terrors. I explain why night terrors are not always trauma-based and how frequency, intensity, and impact on daily functioning matter far more than the behavior itself. I also discuss why periods of regression—especially after significant gains—are developmentally normal and do not indicate a loss of progress or a return to earlier levels of anxiety.

    I walk through how CCPT supports long-term regulation across environments and why, in this case, returning to co-sleeping is not necessary even during transitional stressors like starting a new school. I introduce the concept of "reverse Pandora's box," emphasizing that once a child has achieved internal regulation, they don't lose that capacity during temporary setbacks. Finally, I address questions about adoption disclosure and explain why age-appropriate truth, delivered with relational preservation as the priority, is the most ethical and developmentally sound approach as children grow and mature.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    11 mins
  • 366 | CCPT Gamechangers: Why 'You Wanted Me to Know' Isn't Truly Child-Centered
    Jan 13 2026

    In this episode of the CCPT Game Changers series, I take a close look at a group of phrases I hear frequently in play sessions, such as "You wanted me to know…", "You wanted to tell me…", or "You wanted to show me…". While these statements may seem harmless, I explain how they subtly shift the focus away from the child and toward the therapist, which undermines true child-centeredness. Even small language choices matter when our goal is for the child to feel fully seen, heard, and understood.

    I break down why simply tracking behavior, reflecting content, and reflecting feelings—without inserting ourselves into the response—keeps the child at the center of the relationship. This episode is about refining awareness, not calling out mistakes. With a few intentional language adjustments, we can strengthen attunement, preserve the therapeutic relationship, and more clearly communicate the core CCPT message: the child is the focus, the child is in charge, and the process can be trusted.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    8 mins
  • 365 | Just Because They're Older Doesn't Mean We Change the Model
    Dec 30 2025

    In this episode, I answer a thoughtful question about working with tweens and teens—particularly neurodivergent clients—and whether it's ever appropriate to "check in" verbally about things like school. I explain why, even with older children and adolescents, directly asking questions introduces an agenda, pulls the child into their head, and shifts us out of true child-centeredness. While play may look more activity-based and repetitive at this developmental stage, the core principles of CCPT remain exactly the same.

    I also discuss why repetitive, competence-based play is both developmentally appropriate and therapeutically meaningful for tweens, teens, and children on the spectrum. Even when children don't verbalize their struggles, they are still working through confidence, emotional awareness, and relational skills in the playroom. When we trust the model, trust the child, and trust the process—without inserting topics or timelines—we preserve the outcomes we know CCPT produces. The moment we change the model, we no longer know the outcome.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    9 mins
  • 364 | CCPT Gamechangers: How to Handle Children Who Dart Out of the Playroom
    Dec 23 2025

    In this Game Changers episode, I address one of the most stressful moments for play therapists: children who dart out of the playroom. I explain why "runners" are not a failure of the model and why a child leaving the room is sometimes developmentally, emotionally, or practically driven—not always resistance or defiance. Before jumping to limits, I emphasize the importance of understanding the why behind the behavior and responding thoughtfully rather than reactively.

    I also walk through concrete, practical strategies to increase safety and containment without trapping the child or violating child-centered principles. From using a spinny rolly chair and strategic positioning to recognizing when a child needs accommodation versus a limit, this episode focuses on creating barriers to unsafe behavior—not barriers to autonomy. Managing runners is about safety, attunement, and clinical judgment, and when those pieces come together, children gradually no longer need to escape the playroom.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    11 mins
  • 363 | Reducing Attrition by Preparing Parents for Resistance
    Dec 18 2025

    In this episode, I respond to Elliott's question about children who strongly resist play therapy from the very beginning and parents who eventually give up and terminate early. I explain why early resistance is not a red flag for CCPT failure, but often a clear indicator of high anxiety, a deep need for control, and a child who desperately needs the therapeutic process. The real issue isn't the child's resistance—it's whether parents were fully prepared for it before therapy ever began.

    I walk through how to front-load expectations during the initial parent consultation by explaining the phases of therapy, normalizing resistance, and equipping parents with scripts for what to say and do when their child refuses to come, escalates, or tries to avoid sessions. When parents understand that giving in reinforces anxiety and avoidance, they're far more likely to stay the course. High attrition is almost always a communication problem, and when parents are prepared, children are given the consistency they need to work through their anxiety and reach natural termination.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    12 mins