In this last episode of the Juneteenth Drop, I speak to Justice Educator, Activist, Minister, and my personal funny joke texter, Alicia Crosby Mack. Alicia and I have a engaging conversation about Black Theology and the Black Church. We unpack if what we think about with the term theology which includes imagination and creativity doesn't necessary fit what we have experienced growing up in the Black Church. Those ideals seem to rest on fear and intimidation. The conversation also touches on the importance of expanding our lexicon and imagination around what we name as the black church, good religion, and bad religion. We also tackle controversial topic, how the Church has failed the Black Community.

Alicia is a dynamic public speaker, podcaster, writer, and community activist. Get to know her service and work at her website, here.

Historian, Writer, Educator, and Cultural Activist, Lisa Betty joins me for this episode of Please Say Black. Lisa is dedicated her work in challenging mainstream social justice movements' problematic views on various issues. Lisa and I discuss the impact of white supremacy on black communities and the importance of understanding its history and patterns to challenge it. We also touch on the importance of authenticity and storytelling in preserving the truth and countering colonial lies.

During the episode Lisa mentions Black Reconstruction in America, 1860-1880, Brittany Cooper's book "Eloquent Rage: A Black Feminist Discovers Her Superpower",

Lisa Betty is a PhD Candidate in History at Fordham University. She teaches on themes of land, labor, migration, and diaspora in the Americas, the Caribbean and Africa. Lisa has worked in the field of nonprofit advocacy serving in organizations that advocate for children, families, immigrants, and incarcerated people. To connect with Lisa and all the wonderful things she does click here.

"I speak to the Black experience, but I am always talking about the human condition--about what we can endure, dream, fail at and survive." - Maya Angelou

In this episode, I am graced with the presence of Dr. Jenaya Perdue an educator and entrepreneur living in China. We discuss Jenaya's experiences as a Black expat and the global nature of anti-Blackness. The conversation touches on the decision to leave the United States, the concept of progress for Black people, and the challenges of accessing information in China due to government censorship. Dr. Perdue highlights the ongoing struggle for progress and equality for Black people both in the United States and globally. Plus shares tips for traveling abroad and encourages Black travelers to be intentional and mindful of the impact of their actions on local communities.

During this episode Jenaya mentioned Melanated Stamps on Instagram, The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America's Great Migration, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents, and the Momondo App

Dr. Jenaya Perdue is a podcaster, writer, thinker, storyteller, expat. You can find Dr. Perdue and all the wonderful things Jenaya does here.

“It wasn't so much a matter of choosing France — it was a matter of getting out of America …" - James Baldwin