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Podcast about Podcasting with Gabe Leal

Podcast about Podcasting with Gabe Leal

Written by: Gabe Leal
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Most podcasts die before episode ten because the "why" isn't strong enough.

Podcast about Podcasting is here to fix that. We sit down with the pros...from technical wizards to creative masterminds, to answer the ultimate question: Why should you do a podcast? If you’re tired of technical friction and "pod-fade" anxiety, this show is your roadmap to clarity.

We eliminate the resistance of starting from zero by giving you the blueprints used by the industry’s best.

© 2026 Podcast about Podcasting with Gabe Leal
Episodes
  • "From Print to Podcasting: A Media Journey Built on Storytelling That Connects with Cindy Mich.”

    "From Print to Podcasting: A Media Journey Built on Storytelling That Connects with Cindy Mich.”
    May 28 2026
    From Print to Podcasting: A Media Journey Built on Storytelling That Connects with Cindy MichIn this episode of Podcast About Podcasting, Gabe Leal sits down with award-winning journalist, media personality, filmmaker, publisher, and podcast host Cindy Mich for a powerful conversation about storytelling, resilience, media evolution, and finding your voice through podcasting.With a career spanning journalism, radio, television, filmmaking, publishing, and podcasting, Cindy shares how podcasting unexpectedly became one of the most authentic and impactful platforms in her creative journey. From launching conversations that matter to building a listening audience of over 205,000 people, Cindy explains why podcasting remains one of the most accessible and meaningful mediums for creators today.This conversation explores what it means to build authentic media in a world driven by algorithms, why every interview guest deserves to be treated like a celebrity, and how creators can overcome fear, grief, self-doubt, and burnout while continuing to share stories that resonate with people.Cindy also opens up emotionally about loss, healing through creativity, and turning personal grief into storytelling through her upcoming short film project.Whether you’re an aspiring podcaster, filmmaker, writer, journalist, or creator trying to discover your voice, this episode is packed with wisdom, encouragement, and practical insight for building something meaningful that lasts.In This Episode, We Discuss:Why podcasting is one of the easiest and most accessible creative mediumsHow Cindy Mich transitioned from print journalism into podcastingWhy “every interviewee is a celebrity”The importance of authentic conversations and strong interviewing skillsBuilding an audience from zero in a crowded podcasting spaceWhy podcasting should never feel like a choreHandling criticism, feedback, and audience expectationsThe business side of podcasting and media creationGrief, healing, and continuing creative work after lossThe role storytelling plays in helping others through difficult seasonsHow networking opens doors in podcasting and mediaCindy’s advice for aspiring podcasters afraid to startThe importance of research, preparation, and audience engagementUpcoming projects including Elegant Expressions Magazine, Sin’s Chat Corner, film festival work, and Cindy’s upcoming short filmMemorable Quotes“Every interviewee is a celebrity.”“If you want to make a difference, podcasting is a great outlet for you.”“Never too old. Never too inexperienced. Never giving up.”“When your heart is broken, sometimes you feel like you have nothing to say.”About Cindy MichCindy Mich is an award-winning journalist, media personality, filmmaker, publisher, podcaster, and founder of the independent film festival Art is Alive, now in its seventh year.She is the creator and host of Sin’s Chat Corner, a podcast and television platform focused on candid conversations, storytelling, arts, media, and human connection. Cindy is also the publisher and managing editor of Elegant Expressions Magazine and has built a listening audience of more than 205,000 listeners through her work in podcasting and media.Follow Cindy Mich on Instagram:@officialcindymichConnect With Podcast About PodcastingHosted by Gabe Leal, Podcast About Podcasting explores the real stories, lessons, failures, and breakthroughs behind building a podcast and finding your voice as a creator.If this episode inspired you, share it with a fellow podcaster, filmmaker, journalist, storyteller, or aspiring creator who needs encouragement to finally hit record.🎧 Follow, rate, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.Have a Question? Leave us a text or voicemail. We would love to hear from you. Support the showTHE PODCAST ABOUT PODCASTINGA weekly interview show answering the only question that matters before you start — why should you do a podcast?New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday.SUBSCRIBEApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcast-about-podcasting-with-gabe-leal/id1890063067 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2mFSFuT6n3R26Xm28h9Qbd?si=92a9db77895f4521YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodcastAboutPodcastingwithGabeFOLLOW THE SHOWInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/heygabewhatsup/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heygabewhatsup/Substack: https://substack.com/@heygabewhatsupSEND GABE A MESSAGEpodcastaboutpodcasting@gmail.com---If this episode hit — share it with one person who keeps almost starting. That's who this show is for.
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    51 mins
  • How to Grow a Podcast Audience Without Making It About Yourself with Dave Campbell

    How to Grow a Podcast Audience Without Making It About Yourself with Dave Campbell
    May 26 2026

    Focus on Your Audience, Not Yourself with Dave Campbell

    What does it actually take to build a podcast people care about?

    In this episode of Podcast About Podcasting, Gabe Leal sits down with podcaster, creator, and community builder Dave Campbell for a deep conversation about sustainable podcasting, audience connection, and why podcast growth has less to do with algorithms… and more to do with people.

    Dave shares lessons learned from producing over 2,000 podcast episodes across 9 different shows, including why most creators struggle after the first few episodes and how new podcasters can build momentum without getting trapped chasing downloads and vanity metrics.

    This conversation dives into the emotional side of podcasting, the importance of community, and why serving even one listener can completely change someone’s life.

    Whether you’re thinking about starting a podcast, struggling to stay consistent, or trying to grow your audience the right way, this episode is packed with practical insights and encouragement for creators at every stage.

    In This Episode, We Discuss:
    Why podcasting still has massive opportunity in 2026
    How to identify and serve your ideal audience
    The mindset shift that helps creators stay consistent
    Why most podcasters quit after only a few episodes
    Building sustainable podcast workflows and systems
    How to overcome fear of self-promotion
    Why podcast growth is about depth, not just numbers
    The importance of community in content creation
    Dave Campbell’s approach to managing 9 podcasts
    The power of impact over analytics
    Memorable Quote from Dave Campbell

    “You can count the number of seeds in an apple… but you can’t count the number of apples in a seed.”

    About Dave Campbell

    Dave Campbell is a podcast host, creator, and educator focused on helping people start and sustain meaningful podcasts. Through his multiple shows and podcasting community, Dave encourages creators to remove the fear, gatekeeping, and perfectionism that often stop people from sharing their voice.

    Learn more about Dave Campbell, his podcasts, community meetups, and podcasting resources at:
    HowToPodcast.ca

    Connect With Podcast About Podcasting

    Hosted by Gabe Leal, Podcast About Podcasting explores the real stories, lessons, failures, and breakthroughs behind building a podcast and finding your voice as a creator.

    If this episode brought you value, share it with a fellow podcaster, creator, or aspiring beginner thinking about starting their show.

    🎧 Follow, rate, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Have a Question? Leave us a text or voicemail. We would love to hear from you.

    Support the show

    THE PODCAST ABOUT PODCASTING
    A weekly interview show answering the only question that matters before you start — why should you do a podcast?

    New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday.

    SUBSCRIBE
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcast-about-podcasting-with-gabe-leal/id1890063067

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2mFSFuT6n3R26Xm28h9Qbd?si=92a9db77895f4521

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodcastAboutPodcastingwithGabe

    FOLLOW THE SHOW
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heygabewhatsup/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heygabewhatsup/

    Substack: https://substack.com/@heygabewhatsup

    SEND GABE A MESSAGE
    podcastaboutpodcasting@gmail.com

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    42 mins
  • Your Podcast Will Suck at First (That’s Normal) with Heather Herington

    Your Podcast Will Suck at First (That’s Normal) with Heather Herington
    May 21 2026

    Your Podcast Will Suck at First (That’s Normal) | Heather Herington | Episode 15

    Most new podcasters think they need the perfect setup, perfect strategy, or perfect first episode before they can finally start.

    But the truth is…

    Every creator starts messy.

    In Episode 15 of Podcast About Podcasting, Gabe Leal sits down with Heather Herrington, host of Hot Mess Espresso, for an honest conversation about what it really feels like to build a podcast in public.

    This episode explores:

    * Why most new podcasters struggle with perfectionism
    * How to overcome the fear of publishing
    * the emotional side of podcasting
    * creator burnout and overwhelm
    * sustainable podcast growth
    * Why authenticity matters more than sounding polished
    * learning to fail forward as a content creator
    * how small creators can stay consistent long enough to improve

    Heather shares her experience growing Hot Mess Espresso, what she’s learned after publishing over 100 episodes, and why creators need to stop waiting until they feel “ready.”

    If you’re:

    * starting a podcast
    * building a YouTube channel
    * creating content online
    * struggling with consistency
    * or afraid your content isn’t good enough yet…

    this episode is for you.

    Because every successful creator started as a beginner.

    ⸻

    Follow Heather Herington & Hot Mess Espresso:

    Instagram:
    @hotmess.espresso
    @heather.herington

    Listen to Hot Mess Espresso on Apple Podcasts & Spotify

    Business & guest inquiries:
    [team@hotmessespressopodcast.com](mailto:team@hotmessespressopodcast.com)

    ⸻

    Subscribe to Podcast About Podcasting with Gabe Leal for real conversations about:

    * podcast growth
    * creator psychology
    * content strategy
    * audience building
    * creator business
    * YouTube growth
    * podcast discoverability
    * and building a brand people actually care about.

    #Podcasting #PodcastGrowth #ContentCreation #CreatorEconomy #PersonalBranding #YouTubeGrowth

    Have a Question? Leave us a text or voicemail. We would love to hear from you.

    Support the show

    THE PODCAST ABOUT PODCASTING
    A weekly interview show answering the only question that matters before you start — why should you do a podcast?

    New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday.

    SUBSCRIBE
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcast-about-podcasting-with-gabe-leal/id1890063067

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2mFSFuT6n3R26Xm28h9Qbd?si=92a9db77895f4521

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodcastAboutPodcastingwithGabe

    FOLLOW THE SHOW
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heygabewhatsup/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heygabewhatsup/

    Substack: https://substack.com/@heygabewhatsup

    SEND GABE A MESSAGE
    podcastaboutpodcasting@gmail.com

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    51 mins
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