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Point Me To First Class

Point Me To First Class

Written by: Devon Gimbel MD
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Point Me to First Class is a show for employed professionals, solopreneurs, entrepreneurs, and business owners with higher-than-average personal and/or business expenses who want to learn to leverage them into credit card points to spend on travel. Your expenses are your greatest untapped asset - but learning how to use them to travel the world doesn't have to be confusing or complicated. Each week, Devon Gimbel shares valuable tips, tools, and strategies to help you uplevel your skills earning and redeeming credit card points and shows you how to spend them on incredible travel experiences. Interested in learning more about working with Devon? Visit www.pointmetofirstclass.com to learn more. This podcast is for you if you find yourself asking questions like: How do I earn credit card points and use them for travel? How can I make my expenses benefit me? How can I earn as many credit card points for as little spending as possible? How to maximize value from credit card points. How to earn credit card points for travel. Turn credit card points into travel.© 2025 Devon Gimbel MD LLC All Rights Reserved Social Sciences Travel Writing & Commentary
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  • 166. The Payroll Points Strategy Update: Cards, ROI & Best Practices with DeAndre Coke
    May 4 2026

    If you're a business owner who pays payroll for yourself or your employees, you might be sitting on one of the biggest untapped points-earning opportunities in your business—and it doesn't require opening new cards or chasing welcome bonuses.

    DeAndre Coke, a financial advisor and points expert, returns to the show to give us a much-needed update on earning credit card points for payroll expenses using the Zil Money platform. We first talked about this strategy back in Episode 105 last year, but right after that conversation aired, the entire system experienced major disruptions. DeAndre and I discuss what happened over the past year, what's different and working reliably now, and how business owners can approach this strategy moving forward.

    DeAndre and I walk through the step-by-step process for how this works, which credit cards are currently the best options for maximizing points, and the real math behind the ROI—including the processing fees, platform costs, and how to actually evaluate whether this makes sense for your business. We also cover critical best practices to avoid disrupting your payroll and who this strategy is and isn't right for.

    Get full show notes and transcript: https://pointmetofirstclass.com/earning-points-on-payroll-update

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    Eager to learn the secrets of award travel so that you can turn your expenses into unforgettable experiences? Join the Points Made Easy course waitlist here: https://pointmetofirstclass.com/pointsmadeeasy

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    46 mins
  • 165. Pack Your Bags for Austin: The 2027 Points Conference You've Been Waiting For
    Apr 27 2026

    If you've ever wished you could talk about points and miles with people who are just as enthusiastic about it as you are—without worrying about annoying anyone—this episode is for you.

    Dr. Andrea Mabry and I are officially announcing the 2027 Point Me to First Class Conference, taking place in Austin, Texas from April 29th through May 2nd at the Hyatt Regency Austin. After the incredible response to our first conference in Chicago, we knew we wanted to do this again—and this time, we're giving you a full year to plan ahead.

    Listen in as Andrea and I discuss why we're hosting another live in-person event, what makes this format so valuable compared to learning online, and all the details you need to know about the conference. We share details from the speaker lineup and our session format to room rates, CME accreditation for medical providers, and how to register. Whether you've been to points conferences before or you're considering attending your first one, this episode walks through what to expect and who this conference is designed for.

    Get full show notes and transcript: https://pointmetofirstclass.com/2027-conference-announcement-austin

    Want to shape the show? Take the Point Me To First Class listener survey and share what you love and want more of!

    Eager to learn the secrets of award travel so that you can turn your expenses into unforgettable experiences? Join the Points Made Easy course waitlist here: https://pointmetofirstclass.com/pointsmadeeasy

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    36 mins
  • 164. Credit Card Product Changes: 5 Strategic Ways to Strengthen Your Portfolio
    Apr 20 2026

    If you've been holding the same credit cards for years, you might be missing out on one of the most underutilized strategies for building a stronger, more cost-effective rewards card portfolio.

    Product changes don't get the same attention as opening new cards for big welcome bonuses or booking aspirational travel. But they offer surprising benefits that can help you lower annual fees, acquire cards that are no longer open to new applicants, and even stack spend thresholds in ways that compound your rewards. In this episode, I'm breaking down exactly what credit card product changes are, how they work, and the five main ways you can use them strategically to your advantage.

    Listen in as I walk through the mechanics of upgrade and downgrade product changes, the key benefits and limitations to understand, and tactical examples of how to use product changes to hold multiple copies of high-value cards, access cards that are closed to new applications, and maximize bonus category earning without opening new accounts.

    Get full show notes and transcript: https://pointmetofirstclass.com/credit-card-product-changes-strategy

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    Eager to learn the secrets of award travel so that you can turn your expenses into unforgettable experiences? Join the Points Made Easy course waitlist here: https://pointmetofirstclass.com/pointsmadeeasy

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    38 mins
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