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ROAR for MOAR - Marilise de Villiers

ROAR for MOAR - Marilise de Villiers

Written by: Marilise de Villiers Basson
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You are listening to ROAR for MOAR, where you build momentum and master how to ROAR with your authentic voice. This is your guide to transforming work from something you survive to something that makes you come alive. When brilliant, capable professionals like you learn to ROAR - the magic happens, whether you are navigating work challenges, leading through uncertainty or you are ready to create cultures where people actually thrive - we'll take you on the hero's journey of work place transformation. Because work isn't meant to deplete you, it's meant to fuel you. Your authentic voice is the foundation that makes meaningful impact and influence possible. Meet your host, Marilise de Villiers Basson. A Mindset & Performance Coach, founder and CEO of ROAR! Coaching and Consulting and Best-selling Author. Marilise is passionate about helping people find their ROAR. Now it’s time to make work magic inside & out.© 2021 ROAR! for MOAR! the Podcast - Marilise de Villiers Basson Economics Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Relationships Social Sciences
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  • AI has no nervous system: That is your advantage

    AI has no nervous system: That is your advantage
    Jun 29 2026
    💖🟣🦁 Welcome to the ROAR! For MOAR! Podcast, where we show you how you can play to win without burning out. If you have a sense that there must be more to work and life than what you're currently experiencing, you've come to exactly the right place. You're caught in what I call the MOAR paradox, constantly striving for more, but never feeling enough. You're successful on paper, but you feel empty inside. You know something needs to shift, but you're not sure where to start. Start with you. What if the most important leadership skill is not a skill per se, but capacity? The capacity to be fully present, to create space, and in that space, choosing your response. In this conversation, I welcome Joanne Perold, founder and head coach at Fathom, for a deep dive into the inner work that transforms how leaders show up. Drawing on Virginia Satir's growth model and over two decades of leadership development experience, Joanne brings a warm, grounded perspective on self-awareness, emotional capacity, and why building better leaders starts from the inside out. My personal highlight from the conversation was Jo’s comment that ‘AI doesn’t have a nervous system’. AI can't be present. Real presence such as truly listening, feeling emotional viscerally, and building deep, trusted relationships. This is the human advantage. ➡️ Hop over to YouTube to watch our conversation here: https://youtu.be/D46qgyH9gkk In this podcast: 🟣 Joanne shares how a career that began in HR and payroll systems led her to agile coaching and ultimately to the realisation that systems only work when the people inside them do. 🟢 We explore the moment we are triggered and a much younger version of ourselves, typically a five-year-old, takes the wheel. We go on autopilot and react emotionally. That five-year-old is just one of the different parts we each carry, and building self-awareness of those parts, understanding what each one needs, is what helps us catch them before they take over. 🔴 I introduce Dr Edith Eger's distinction between victimisation and victimhood: 'suffering from victimisation is universal, but victimhood is optional.' My bully victimised me, but for a long time I chose victimhood: I built the cage and became my own jailor. 🟡 I introduce Dr Craig Malkin's narcissism spectrum scale. He defines narcissism as a normal, pervasive human tendency: the drive to feel special. It sits on a continuum of possible expressions: from extreme echoism (1) to extreme narcissism (10), with healthy narcissism (self-worth) in the middle (5). 🔵 We ask why people still leave their hearts at the door, and what happens when they do. 🟠We talk brain-heart coherence and Virginia Satir's idea of congruence: the alignment between what you feel and how you show up, and why corporate culture keeps leaders stuck in their heads instead of their hearts. I absolutely loved this conversation, Jo. It was an honour to welcome you as my guest! Keep shining bright. You are extraordinary 💖💪✨ ➡️ Hop over to YouTube to watch our conversation here: https://youtu.be/D46qgyH9gkk Loved this episode? Subscribe to the ROAR for MOAR! podcast and share it with someone who needs to hear it today. 🦁 Until next time, live your purpose, stand in your power and have the courage to speak your truth. ROAR for MOAR. No more playing small. Own your magic. Your message matters. 💖🟣 With much love and deep gratitude, Marilise #ROARforMOAR #ROAR #MOAR #burnoutrecovery #consciousleadership #energymanagement #insideouttransformation #workplacewellbeing #findyourvoice #heartcenteredliving #sustainablesuccess #speakyourtruth #MOARbook #personalgrowth #leadershipdevelopment #personaldevelopment #selfdevelopment #femalestartup #foundersfatigue #navigatingworkchallenges 🔸About Joanne Perold Joanne is the director, head coach and trainer at Fathom, which she founded in 2021. With over two decades of experience across HR technology, agile coaching, and leadership development, her work is grounded in Virginia Satir's growth model which is a framework originally developed to help families heal, now applied powerfully in organisational contexts. Joanne helps leaders and teams build resilience, self-awareness, and the adaptive capacity to thrive in an increasingly complex world. Connect with Joanne on LinkedIn (Joanne Perold) or visit fathom.co.za 🔸 About ROAR! and MOAR! In ROAR! How to Tame the Bully Inside and Out (December 2019), I tackle the silent damage bullying causes, in the workplace, online, and in everyday life. The book helps readers recognise toxic behaviour, understand the dynamics between bully, victim and culture, and respond with confidence and clarity rather than fear or avoidance. I wrote it after discovering, the hard way, just how common and costly workplace bullying really is. Get your copy of ROAR! Here: Amazon.com: ROAR!: How to tame the bully inside and out: 9781781334270 In MOAR! How to Play to...
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    44 mins
  • Lessons From My Hero's Journey: Moving countries, writing MOAR! and playing to win without burning out

    Lessons From My Hero's Journey: Moving countries, writing MOAR! and playing to win without burning out
    Apr 10 2026

    💖🟣🦁 Welcome to the ROAR! For MOAR! Podcast, where we show you how you can play to win without burning out. So, if you have this sense that there must be more to work and life than what you're currently experiencing, you've come to exactly the right place. You're caught in what I call this more paradox, constantly striving for more and never feeling enough. So, you're successful on paper, but you feel empty inside. You know something needs to shift, but you're not sure where to start. Well, start with you.

    🎙️ Once again, I'm flipping the script! Instead of me interviewing a guest, the beautiful Andrea Fraser is taking you on a journey with me as we explore the story behind my book MOAR!

    In this candid and inspiring conversation, Andrea turns the tables on Marilise asking the questions her audience has been wanting answered. From the raw emotion of a book launch to the realities of burnout, this episode is full of honest reflections, practical wisdom, and Marilise's signature inside-out philosophy.

    ➡️ Hop over to YouTube to watch our conversation here: https://youtu.be/WlXADm0-B6A

    In this podcast we also explore:

    🟣 Behind the Scenes of the MOAR! Book Launch Marilise shares the real story behind launching MOAR! The hiccups, the last-minute chaos, and why this launch felt worlds apart from her first book ROAR! in 2019.

    🟢 Writing with AI: Authenticity, Iteration & Claude Could she stay authentic while co-writing with AI? Marilise opens up about learning to use Claude for the first time, how she trained it on her voice, and why the process didn't necessarily speed things up but absolutely deepened the quality of her thinking.

    🟡 The ROAR Blueprint & the MOAR Hero's Journey Marilise unpacks how her ROAR methodology (Recognise, Observe, Assert, Redirect) sits at the very heart of MOAR! and how the two books work together as a complete transformation system. She walks through the MOAR acronym: Map your adventure, Open your life force, Act with heart, Rise through the fire.

    🔵 What Burnout Really Feels Like and Who's Most at Risk Using the WHO's official definition as a starting point, Marilise describes burnout in human terms, the darkness, the emptiness, the exhaustion. She explains why high performers and high achievers are most vulnerable, and shares her Daily MEDS framework (Meditation, Exercise, Diet, Sleep) as a practical recovery tool.

    🟠 Career Pivots, Passion & the "Passion Doesn't Pay the Bills" Myth From chartered accountant to conscious leadership coach, Marilise tells her career story with honesty and heart. She challenges the idea that passion can't be profitable and offers a simple, grounded invitation: start small, start now, and keep showing up for your dream.

    Get your copy of my Rest, Release & Recharge Guide here: https://www.marilise-de-villiers.com/opt-in-to-get-your-copy-of-the-rest-release-recharge-guide

    I absolutely loved this conversation with Andrea - it was an honour to share my journey with such vulnerability and to invite you into the possibility of your own MORE.

    You are extraordinary 💖💪✨

    ➡️ Hop over to YouTube to watch our conversation here: https://youtu.be/WlXADm0-B6A

    Loved this episode? Subscribe to the ROAR for MOAR! podcast and share it with someone who needs to hear it today.🦁

    Until next time, live your purpose, stand in your power and have courage to speak your truth – ROAR!

    No more playing small. Own your magic. Your message matters. 💖🟣

    Marilise

    #ROARforMOAR #ROAR #MOAR #beingmore #doingmore #burnoutrecovery #consciousleadership #energymanagement #insideouttransformation #workplacewellbeing #findyourvoice #heartcenteredliving #sustainablesuccess #speakyourtruth #MOARbook

    🔸 About MOAR! – MOAR! is Marilise's second book, following ROAR! (published December 2019). Written as a guide and playbook for your personal transformation journey, MOAR! offers a wealth of questions to help you ask better ones, practical steps for sustainable change, and the roadmap for inside-out transformation.

    Get your copy of MOAR! here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1049244788
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    40 mins
  • Introducing MOAR! The Book

    Introducing MOAR! The Book
    Mar 10 2026

    💖🟣🦁 Welcome to the ROAR! For MOAR! Podcast, where we show you how you can play to win without burning out. So, if you have this sense that there must be more to work and life than what you're currently experiencing, you've come to exactly the right place. You're caught in what I call this more paradox, constantly striving for more and never feeling enough. So, you're successful on paper, but you feel empty inside. You know something needs to shift, but you're not sure where to start. Well, start with you.

    🎙️ In this episode, Petra Velzeboer and I explore the journey of self-discovery, workplace wellbeing, and how to play to win without burning out. They discuss practical strategies for living more intentionally, overcoming burnout, and creating a ripple effect of positive change.

    ➡️ Watch the podcast here: https://youtu.be/WnmXRBieUAs

    Please note: At the bottom of the show notes, you can find out how you can get your copy of MOAR! How to Play to Win Without Burning Out I

    In this podcast we also explore:

    🟣 The inspiration behind the book 'MOAR' and the journey of self-discovery

    🟢 Digital wellbeing and the importance of daily habits and routines

    🟡 Overcoming fear and embracing transformation from the inside out

    🔵 The role of leadership in creating thriving workplace cultures

    🟠 The significance of choice and intentional living in wellbeing

    🔴 The ROAR to MOAR Hero's Journey framework and its practical application

    Please note: At the bottom of the show notes, you can find out how you can get your copy of MOAR! How to Play to Win Without Burning Out

    I absolutely loved this conversation with Petra!

    You are extraordinary 💖💪✨

    ➡️ Watch the podcast here: https://youtu.be/WnmXRBieUAs

    Until next time, live your purpose, stand in your power and have courage to speak your truth – ROAR! 🦁

    With much love and gratitude,

    Marilise

    #ROARforMOAR #ROAR #MOAR #beingmore #doingmore #burnoutrecovery #consciousleadership #energymanagement #insideouttransformation #workplacewellbeing #findyourvoice #heartcenteredliving #sustainablesuccess #speakyourtruth #MOARbook

    🔸 About MOAR! – MOAR! is Marilise's second book, following ROAR! (published December 2019). Written as a guide and playbook for your personal transformation journey, MOAR! offers a wealth of questions to help you ask better ones, practical steps for sustainable change, and the roadmap for inside-out transformation. MOAR! Is now available in paperback and e-copy formats, with an accompanying online course featuring additional resources. What to expect from MOAR: The quality of our lives really does depend on the quality of the questions we ask ourselves. This book invites you on a journey - one that may take a year, two, five, or even ten years depending on your worthy goal. This is not a magic wand solution, but rather your permission slip to start making decisions from your heart and creating the life you would love to live.

    Get your copy here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GN98TJ1P

    🔹 About Petra – Petra Velzeboer, one of the world's leading voices on workplace mental health and digital wellbeing. She’s a psychotherapist, two times TEDx speaker, and the author of two wellbeing books: Begin With You: Invest in Your Mental Wellbeing and Satisfaction at Work, and Digital Wellbeing: Recharge Your Focus and Reboot Your Life.
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    45 mins
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