In this episode of Real Talk School Leadership, we explore what might seem like an unexpected connection — what Disney can teach us about schools.

From the moment you walk into a Disney park or resort, every detail is intentionally designed to create an unforgettable experience. The lighting, the music, the interactions, the storytelling — nothing is left to chance. And the more we step back and think about it, the more we realize:

Schools are designing experiences every single day too.

The question is… are we doing it intentionally?

In this episode, we dive into how Disney’s approach to experience design, Imagineering, motivation, and human connection directly connects to the work we do in classrooms, schools, and organizations.

Grounded in research such as:

• Pine & Gilmore’s The Experience Economy
• Deci & Ryan’s Self-Determination Theory
• Edmondson’s work on Psychological Safety
• Goleman’s research on Emotional Intelligence

we unpack how engagement, creativity, and motivation don’t happen by chance — they happen by design.

We also explore how the smallest details — the way we greet students, structure lessons, and respond to mistakes — shape the climate and culture of our schools over time.

This episode ties directly into the broader work of the Creative Schools Model, emphasizing the alignment of people, process, climate, and structures to create environments where students and staff can truly thrive.

If we want more engaged students, more motivated staff, and more meaningful learning… We don’t just need better strategies.

We need better-designed experiences.

In this episode of Real Talk School Leadership, we take a step back from systems and strategies to focus on something that sits at the center of it all — understanding people.

We spend a lot of time in education talking about curriculum, instruction, and outcomes. But the reality is, none of that works the way we want it to if we don’t truly understand the students in front of us, the colleagues we work with, and the teams we’re part of.

Grounded in research from Carl Rogers, Amy Edmondson, Daniel Goleman, and Zaretta Hammond, this episode explores how understanding people impacts:

• Student engagement and willingness to take risks
• Teacher collaboration and team dynamics
• Leadership decisions and school culture

We unpack the idea that behavior is often just the surface — and how shifting from “What’s wrong?” to “What’s happening?” can completely change how we respond in classrooms, meetings, and leadership situations.

We also connect this back to previous conversations around thinking preferences and the problem-solving process (Clarify → Ideate → Develop → Implement), showing how understanding how people think leads to better outcomes for everyone.

Because at the end of the day, better schools aren’t built through better systems alone. They’re built through better understanding of people.

What does it really take to prepare students for a future we can’t predict?

In this episode of Real Talk School Leadership, Dan Mault introduces the core ideas behind his upcoming book, Creativity by Design: A Practical Guide to Innovation, Student Engagement, and Creative Teaching. This conversation dives into one of the biggest challenges facing schools today—how to move beyond compliance-driven learning and begin developing students who can think, adapt, and create.

Dan breaks down the Creative Schools Model—a practical framework built on curiosity, thinking, exploration, innovation, and environment—and explains how these elements work together to shape meaningful learning experiences.

More importantly, this episode goes beyond theory.

You’ll walk away with simple, actionable strategies you can use immediately. This is just a small snippet of what is inside the book!

If you’re a teacher, principal, or educational leader looking for realistic ways to bring creativity into your classroom or school—without adding one more thing to your plate—this episode is for you.

Because the future isn’t waiting.

And neither should we.