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Refrigerator Moms

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Born from 20 years of friendship, during which they navigated the trenches of autism parenting and advocacy, the Refrigerator Moms is Kelley Jensen and Julianna Scott’s way of reaching out to parents waging the same battles they were. Their purpose with this podcast is to clear the fog, silence the noise, and find a path through neurodivergence for parents that are stuck between bad choices. They tackle parenting topics such as mom guilt, tantrums, pathological demand avoidance, siblings, medication, comorbidities, social media, and much more.© 2025 Refrigerator Moms Parenting Relationships
Episodes
  • Is the MAHA Movement Good for Autistic People? We Tracked the Timeline
    Feb 25 2026

    Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen break down everything that has happened since HHS Secretary RFK Jr. took office, tracking a timeline of claims, policy changes, and appointments that affect the autism community. From the WHO reaffirming no causal link between vaccines and autism, to the quiet removal of FDA web pages warning against dangerous treatments like chelation therapy, to the stacking of the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee with anti-vaccine activists — the hosts follow the facts and the money. Along the way, they address Lucavorin, ultra-processed food rhetoric, and what "buyer beware" really means for autism families right now.

    Key Takeaways

    • The WHO reviewed 31 studies from multiple countries and reaffirmed no causal link between vaccines and autism spectrum disorder.
    • An FDA page warning against dangerous autism "treatments" — including chelation and stem cell therapy — was quietly removed.
    • A Lancet study confirmed Tylenol use during pregnancy does not increase autism risk; there was no public HHS response.
    • Lucavorin (leucovorin calcium) was FDA-approved only for a rare hereditary disorder — not autism — and off-label use at high doses can be dangerous.
    • The Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee was reconstituted with 21 new members, largely anti-vaccine activists, excluding established scientific and advocacy leadership.
    • Mercury was removed from childhood vaccines in 2000–2001, yet several new committee members continue to cite mercury as a cause of autism.
    • Kennedy's "Take Back America" tour criticized ultra-processed food while taking no regulatory action against the food industry.
    • NIH funding is shifting away from universities in blue states; a significant portion is expected to fund anti-vaccine studies.
    • RFK Jr. has numerous vested financial interests, including potential legal referral fees, MAHA trademark filings, and ties to the $6.3 trillion wellness industry.
    • The hosts credit Kennedy for stating on record that screen time does not cause autism and that health decisions should be made with physicians.

    🔗 Learn More:
    Website: refrigeratormoms.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/refrigeratormoms/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/refrigeratormoms
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/refrigeratormoms/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@RefrigeratorMoms


    Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MeRT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

    • (00:00) - Introduction & our stance on RFK Jr.
    • (01:26) - Timeline begins: late 2024 recap
    • (01:48) - WHO reaffirms vaccines don't cause autism
    • (03:04) - FDA removes chelation therapy warning
    • (03:48) - Sponsor: Brain Performance Technologies (SAINT)
    • (04:30) - Lancet study clears Tylenol; no HHS response
    • (05:03) - The Autism Industrial Complex
    • (06:07) - Big wellness & the MAHA movement
    • (07:50) - Lucavorin: what it is & what it isn't
    • (09:28) - Parents vs. the research gap
    • (11:16) - Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee
    • (12:05) - Who's on the new committee?
    • (13:31) - Sponsor: Brain Performance Technologies (MeRT)
    • (14:00) - Mercury & vaccines: still not true
    • (15:21) - Discredited vs. silenced
    • (17:00) - NIH funding & anti-vaccine studies
    • (17:29) - Kennedy's Take Back America tour
    • (18:38) - Keto diets & autism: the real picture
    • (19:49) - Credit where it's due: screens & autism
    • (20:22) - NIH director on vaccines
    • (21:14) - RFK Jr.'s vested financial interests
    • (22:48) - Buyer beware
    • (23:06) - The cocaine confession
    • (23:41) - Final thoughts
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    25 mins
  • From Vodka to Therapy Conflicts: Tough Situations for Autism Parents
    Feb 18 2026

    Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle controversial parenting scenarios from autism Facebook groups, exploring real dilemmas that leave parents stumped. When a 13-year-old autistic child steals vodka to share with friends, is it a consequence problem or a safety issue? The hosts dissect problematic advice about validating risky behavior and discuss why understanding a child's developmental level matters more than imposing consequences. They also address therapy conflicts when ABA and speech therapy clash, the pressure around "please and thank you," navigating gift-giving with family members, dealing with spouses who won't adapt their parenting approach, and the non-negotiable priority of keeping children safe from danger.

    Key Takeaways:

    • When an autistic child doesn't understand stealing, start with teaching the concept rather than imposing consequences
    • Autistic teens are vulnerable to peer manipulation and may take dangerous risks to fit in with friends
    • Before implementing consequences, assess the child's developmental level and what they're actually capable of understanding
    • Team meetings are essential when different therapists use conflicting approaches for the same child
    • Social norms like "please and thank you" should be taught when developmentally appropriate, not forced prematurely
    • Get ahead of gift-giving situations by preparing family members and considering opening presents privately
    • When safety is at stake, parents have permission to stop dangerous behavior first and teach later
    • Spouse alignment on autism parenting is critical; validate concerns while working toward solutions together
    • Consider whether peer relationships are healthy or exploitative when children engage in risky behaviors
    • Not all autism parenting advice from online groups is appropriate, even from moderators

    🔗 Learn More:
    Website: refrigeratormoms.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/refrigeratormoms/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/refrigeratormoms
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/refrigeratormoms/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@RefrigeratorMoms

    Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MERT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (00:40) - Teen Steals Vodka Scenario
    • (03:15) - Dangerous Advice from Groups
    • (04:12) - Understanding Stealing Concept
    • (04:48) - Peer Pressure & Manipulation
    • (09:24) - Who Are These Friends?
    • (10:16) - Severity Level Matters
    • (11:56) - Conflicting Therapy Methods
    • (12:41) - Please & Thank You Debate
    • (14:17) - Gift Giving Strategies
    • (16:35) - Prepping Family Members
    • (17:22) - Spouse Disagreements
    • (19:12) - Dangerous Behavior Dilemma
    • (20:32) - Closing Thoughts
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    22 mins
  • An Inconvenient Study Review: How Fear Mongering Fuels the Autism Industrial Complex
    Feb 11 2026

    Julianna and Kelley dissect "An Inconvenient Study," a documentary from the creators of Vaxxed that claims 54% of American children have chronic illnesses caused by vaccines. The film features Del Bigtree's undercover footage of a Henry Ford Health researcher who conducted a flawed retrospective study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The hosts connect this documentary's rhetoric to RFK Jr's current HHS proposals for similar Medicare/Medicaid studies, explaining why retrospective designs cannot establish causation and are vulnerable to bias. They emphasize the importance of consulting pediatricians rather than falling for fear-based messaging.


    Key Takeaways:

    • "An Inconvenient Study" claims all childhood vaccines cause chronic illness in 54% of children
    • The documentary centers on a retrospective study that Henry Ford Health rejected for not meeting methodological standards
    • Retrospective studies look at existing data but cannot prove causation and are vulnerable to bias
    • RFK Jr is proposing similar retrospective studies using Medicare/Medicaid data, which isn't a representative population
    • The documentary uses the same rhetoric Kennedy employs about "balance" and hearing anti-vaccine voices
    • Scaling up a flawed study design doesn't fix its fundamental problems
    • The film is part of the autism industrial complex fear mongering
    • Anti-vaccine movement is gaining traction by creating skepticism about settled science
    • Parents should consult their pediatricians about vaccine decisions, not documentaries

    🔗 Learn More:
    Website: refrigeratormoms.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/refrigeratormoms/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/refrigeratormoms
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/refrigeratormoms/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@RefrigeratorMoms

    Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MERT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

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    12 mins
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