In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the crucial distinction between empathy and compassion, especially in leadership and workplace dynamics. What many consider a strength can quietly lead to burnout, resentment, and disempowerment when left unchecked.

They unpack how empathy saturates the nervous system, while compassion creates clarity, boundaries, and true support. This conversation is especially relevant for leaders, managers, caregivers, and recovering people-pleasers.

They explore:

• Why empathy and compassion are not interchangeable

• How empathy leads to emotional saturation

• Compassion as care without carrying

• The difference between caregiving and caretaking

• How empathy can unintentionally disempower others

• Compassion as an empowerment tool

• Supporting employees without absorbing their struggles

• Asking better questions instead of making assumptions

• Leadership through belief and trust

• When empathy is appropriate and when it is not

• The tarp versus sponge metaphor

• Nervous system protection for leaders

• Sustainable emotional presence at work

This episode is practical, timely, and deeply supportive for anyone building teams or holding emotional space for others.

“Empathy is feeling with someone. Compassion is caring for them.”

“When you take it all on, you leave nothing for yourself.”

“Caretaking disempowers. Caregiving supports.”

“You can hold space without carrying weight.”

“Ask what they need instead of assuming.”

“Be a tarp, not a sponge.”

“Compassion protects everyone involved.”

Your reflections and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

1. Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
2. https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
3. Self Mastery Program:

In this episode, Meg and Jill unpack two very different engines that drive productivity: fear and flow. While both can produce results, only one creates sustainability, fulfillment, and peace.

They reflect on hustle culture, nervous system conditioning, and the hidden cost of fear based success. Through personal stories, coaching insights, and real world business examples, they explore how productivity shifts when trust replaces urgency.

They explore:

• The difference between fear driven productivity and flow based productivity

• How hustle culture conditions the nervous system

• Physical symptoms of fear based work

• Why fear fueled success never feels like arrival

• Awareness as the first step to change

• The role of self judgment in keeping fear alive

• Non judgment as a bridge to empowerment

• Why conditional happiness never works

• Flow as a spiritual and creative experience

• How flow multiplies output with less effort

• Recognizing personal flow patterns

• Rituals that reliably activate flow

• Why presence with family fuels creativity

• How to build sustainable productivity practices

• Letting go of guilt around ease

This episode is clarifying and expansive. It is especially powerful for founders, leaders, creatives, and anyone questioning hustle as the price of success.

“Fear can get you there, but you will still be living in fear once you arrive.”

“Self judgment is fear in disguise.”

“When I slowed down, everything started working better.”

“Flow feels like magic because you are aligned.”

“You do not arrive at peace by delaying it.”

“The journey can be what you are chasing.”

“Flow is available more often than we think.”

Your reflections and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

1. Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
2. https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
3. Self Mastery Program:
4. https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
5. Bold

In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the powerful connection between physical clutter and mental noise. What begins as a conversation about cleaning and household systems unfolds into a deeper discussion about nervous system regulation, coherence, conscious choice, and how we reclaim our energy.

They reflect on how clutter impacts stress, family dynamics, productivity, and emotional wellbeing. The episode introduces the idea that while physical decluttering is helpful, true peace comes from learning how to declutter the mind regardless of the environment.

They explore:

• How physical clutter directly impacts mental and emotional regulation

• Why systems and habits in the home matter more than perfection

• The difference between control and structure

• How resentment builds when responsibility is unevenly carried

• The concept of being the default person in a household

• Why shared responsibility builds connection and frees up time

• How clutter creates invisible cognitive load

• HeartMath technology and the concept of coherence

• Restorative emotions versus depleting emotions

• How thoughts directly impact heart rhythm and nervous system state

• Why frustration keeps us stuck in depletion

• Conscious choice as the gateway to peace

• How to shift from reaction to agency

• Gratitude as a physiological reset

• Why you do not need external change to reclaim inner calm

This episode is grounding, reflective, and deeply practical. It is especially supportive if you feel overwhelmed, overstimulated, or stuck in cycles of frustration at home or work.

“Anything they do not do falls on me, and that weight adds up.”

“Physical noise becomes mental noise faster than we realize.”

“Crap on the counter is not a lion, even though our body reacts like it is.”

“Restorative emotions change your physiology in real time.”

“You always have a choice, even when you are frustrated.”

“Frustration is information, not a place to live.”

“You do not need anyone else on board to reclaim your peace.”

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

1. Heart Math BioFeedback Device:

https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg

1. Self Mastery Program:

https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program