David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie rip into the biggest talking point from All Blacks v Wallabies: Eddie Jones’ effort stats, and what they really say about mindset, speed off the ground, and being ready for the next job. With the Wallabies’ No.10 curse biting again and another reshuffle coming, the trio run the ruler over the 23, the risks around combinations, and what has to change to keep New Zealand honest. The All Blacks changes get the same treatment, including the excitement factor of Timoci Tavatavanawai. There’s also a straight-shooting discussion on Mark Nawaqanitawase’s rugby return, the manager-led noise about Fiji and Italy eligibility, and what Rugby Australia and Les Kiss should do next. Plus a big women’s rugby weekend and a fast, practical look at the Investec Champions Cup and EPCR Challenge Cup match list.

Also in this episode:

● Eddie Jones’ effort statistics and what they measure

● Wallabies squad changes: Meredith in, Donaldson out

● All Blacks depth and injury cover, Hansen’s take

● Mark Nawaqanitawase eligibility debate: Australia, Fiji, Italy

● Black Ferns v France series and Wallaroos v Scotland

● Champions Cup and Challenge Cup fixtures across Europe

PLUS: What “possession” and adaptable tactics really mean against the All Blacks.

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David Pembroke, Ewen McKenzie and Steve Hansen break down the All Blacks’ 50-19 win over Australia at Eden Park, and why the match swung hard after Australia’s strong opening. They dig into what New Zealand fixed fast: high ball catches, maul defence, breakdown support, and a second-half lineout lift, plus how Australia’s plan to target McKenzie and use Sua'ali'i early simply evaporated. The big talking point: the Wallabies’ box kicking and lack of plan B, and what changes before Sydney with the Bledisloe already gone. The chat widens to deeper issues in Australian rugby: pathways, depth, contracts, competition structure, and the ongoing problem at 10, with Carter Gordon central to the future. Plus: refereeing boundaries, TMO stoppages, laws that need simplifying, and how World Rugby can better grow the game beyond the Nations Cup tiers.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks high ball improvements punish Australia’s tactic

● Wallabies lose momentum after McKenzie sparks first try

● Australia’s box kicking hands New Zealand easy counterattack

● Depth and bench quality gap exposed between squads

● Refereeing, TMO stoppages, and law simplification debate

● Nations Cup growth, fixtures for emerging unions, Brazil support

PLUS: A look at the Raeburn Shield, Argentina hiring Sean Edwards, and Fiji’s reported Jake White move.

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The Bledisloe Cup is back for 2026, and David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie lay out why this one feels bigger than usual: Australia have stacked wins, interest is spiking again, and Eden Park is waiting. The lads break down the teams and the key battlegrounds, from set piece and lineout pressure to the aerial contest around Sua’ali’i and the impact of Scott Barrett returning. Hansen explains why New Zealand cherish the trophy and why nobody wants to be the team that hands it back, while McKenzie details what Australia must do at the breakdown and on the advantage line to stay in the fight. There’s also a sharp chat on refereeing, TMO risk, the nines battle (Roigard vs Lonergan), and a fiery debate on RUPA’s World Cup hosting-fee comments.

Also in this episode:

● What the Bledisloe Cup means in Australia and NZ

● Wallabies selection: bench depth concerns without Tupou, Hooper

● All Blacks selection: Scott Barrett start and lineout calling

● Tactical focus: aerial contest targeting McKenzie, Jordan, Carter

● Bigger picture: Australian rugby momentum and bandwagon risk

● RUPA dispute and World Rugby’s global season roadblocks

PLUS: The panel answers audience questions on Jorgensen at 10 and why World Rugby is pushing into the USA market.

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