In this episode, hosts Cathy and Caleb are joined by Chip Sweney, Executive Director and Pastor of Greater Atlanta Transformation at Perimeter, for an honest conversation about anxiety and depression. Chip vulnerably shares his journey of walking through intense anxiety and depression while serving in pastoral leadership and how God met him in the depths of his suffering. He reminds listeners that they are not alone and reminds us of Jesus’s gently and lowly heart for us.

Throughout the discussion, the three touch on the importance of trusted relationships, common lies believers can face in this season, and how Jesus gently speaks truth into those places. They also discuss topics like medication, how to build your own trusted support team, and practical wisdom for both those who are struggling and who want to be a safe place for others.

We pray this episode brings hope, reminding you that you are not alone and that suffering does not disqualify you from faith or leadership. If you are walking through anxiety or depression, we encourage you to reach out to a trusted counselor, church, or friend for support.

Additional Resources:

• Read Dane Ortlund’s books, Gentle and Lowly and The Heart of Jesus: How He Really Feels about You

• Read Chip’s article from Christianity Today, Pastor, You Don’t Have To Suffer Alone

• Click here to get in touch with a counselor today

• (00:00:00) - Podcast
• (00:00:48) - Perimeter Health CEO Chip Wagner on his role
• (00:02:01) - Senior Pastor at Perimeter Church: Celebrating 30 Years
• (00:03:53) - Chip Wilson on His Struggle with Anxiety and Depression
• (00:06:08) - How to help others with depression
• (00:13:45) - How the Body of Christ Comforted Me During My Afflictions
• (00:17:01) - Depression and anxiety: a spiritual issue
• (00:19:53) - Reclaiming the Life of Jesus
• (00:22:45) - Living on a Mission: Courage and Community
• (00:26:55) - What Would You Want People to Know About Struggling Wives
• (00:32:54) - Walking With God
• (00:34:17) - Paul in His Weakness
• (00:37:35) - The Next Step for People Struggling With Depression