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Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints

Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints

Written by: Max Goller
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Sacred Legions interview secular saints, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. Hosted by Max Goller, we find out what inspired our guests in their saintly journey and ask them to contribute volunteer and self-care resources for our audience that they will be able to find on our website, sacredlegions.org. As Kurt said, ""No damn cat and no damn cradle...There is only one rule I know of babies—goddamn it, you've got to be kind!"© 2024 Science Social Sciences Spirituality
Episodes
  • Hugh Magbie: A Secular Saint of Human Rights
    Feb 10 2026

    In this episode of Sacred Legions, host Max Goller engages with Hugh Magbie, a secular saint of human rights, discussing his background, the influence of Quaker values, and the complexities of activism in today's political landscape. They explore themes of alienation, the role of minorities in politics, the impact of consumer choices, and the importance of community engagement. The conversation reflects on the challenges of nonviolence, the integrity of media, and the need for new solutions in a rapidly changing world.

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    59 mins
  • Ben Price: A Secular Saint of Global Stewardship
    Jan 13 2026

    In this conversation, host, Max Goller, and Secular Saint, Ben Price, discuss the evolution of the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) and its mission to empower communities to assert their rights against environmental degradation. They explore the shift from traditional regulatory approaches to a focus on community rights and self-governance, emphasizing the importance of local decision-making in environmental matters. The discussion also touches on the historical context of democracy in the U.S., the role of education in fostering community empowerment, and the need to challenge systemic injustices that prioritize corporate interests over public health and safety.

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    56 mins
  • Alexis Whitham: Secular Saint of Human Rights
    Dec 9 2025

    In this episode of Sacred Legions, host Max Goller engages with Alexis Whitham and April Krall from the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless. They discuss the importance of community support for the unhoused, the impact of policies on homelessness, and the need for empathy in healthcare. The conversation highlights the Homeless Persons Memorial Vigil, personal journeys into advocacy, and the significance of housing-first initiatives. The guests share insights on outreach efforts, the role of art in community engagement, and the challenges of substance use among the unhoused. They emphasize the importance of understanding the systemic issues surrounding homelessness and the need for affordable housing solutions.

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    56 mins
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