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Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints

Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints

Written by: Max Goller
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Sacred Legions interview secular saints, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. Hosted by Max Goller, we find out what inspired our guests in their saintly journey and ask them to contribute volunteer and self-care resources for our audience that they will be able to find on our website, sacredlegions.org. As Kurt said, ""No damn cat and no damn cradle...There is only one rule I know of babies—goddamn it, you've got to be kind!"© 2024 Science Social Sciences Spirituality
Episodes
  • David Lane: A Secular Saint of Creative Expression
    Apr 14 2026

    This episode features David Lane, a master woodworker and artist, who shares his inspiring projects that blend craftsmanship with literature and social justice. Enjoy descriptions of a war chest honoring Kurt Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse-Five, a toolbox honoring Robert Pirsig’s Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, a specially crafted Little Free Library, or bookshelves dedicated to Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451, works by Seamus Heany, or works by imprisoned authors. You will also get an advanced look at a hope chest honoring several African American authors. Discover how David’s art promotes decency, history, and cultural awareness.

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    54 mins
  • Christopher Kendall Olsen: A Secular Saint of Human Rights
    Mar 10 2026

    In this episode of Sacred Legions, host Max Goller speaks with Christopher Kendall Olsen from Welcome to Housing about his inspiring journey helping people moving into a new home. Relocating after a loss or being unhoused can be daunting, so providing household items in Maine is a vital service. They discuss the importance of community support, volunteerism, innovative solutions to homelessness, and recovery from loss.

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    1 hr
  • Hugh Magbie: A Secular Saint of Human Rights
    Feb 10 2026

    In this episode of Sacred Legions, host Max Goller engages with Hugh Magbie, a secular saint of human rights, discussing his background, the influence of Quaker values, and the complexities of activism in today's political landscape. They explore themes of alienation, the role of minorities in politics, the impact of consumer choices, and the importance of community engagement. The conversation reflects on the challenges of nonviolence, the integrity of media, and the need for new solutions in a rapidly changing world.

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    59 mins
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