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Say That With Love

Say That With Love

Written by: Dr. Leah Austin
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What does it take to build a world where Black children truly thrive? Hosted by Dr. Leah Austin, Say That With Love is a podcast from the National Black Child Development Institute (NBCDI) that explores the Eight Essential Outcomes for Black Child Development through the voices of those closest to the work: educators, parents, artists, healers, and community leaders building liberated futures for Black children and families. Rooted in Afrofuturism, early childhood development, and systems thinking, each episode weaves storytelling, expert insight, and community wisdom to ignite hope and drive action. From joyful learning to economic security, we're reimagining what's possible for our youngest generation. This is more than a podcast. It's a movement to nurture Black brilliance, protect Black joy, and center Black children in systems designed for them to flourish. Produced by Mike Brown in partnership with ABF Creative. Poetry performed by Ariana Santiago.NBCDI Parenting Relationships Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Lives and Plays in a Safe Community with Rev. Dr. Cheryl Cook-Posley

    Lives and Plays in a Safe Community with Rev. Dr. Cheryl Cook-Posley
    May 18 2026
    Safety isn’t just the absence of harm. It’s the presence of joy, belonging, and the freedom to dream. In this episode of Say That With Love, Dr. Leah Austin is joined by Reverend Dr. Cheryl Cook-Posley, National Director of Movement Building at the Children’s Defense Fund. Together, they explore what it truly means for Black children to live and play in safe communities—where care is a collective responsibility, and safety includes dignity, culture, and joy. This conversation redefines safety through a liberation lens, offering strategies to build systems and spaces where Black children can grow up knowing they are protected, loved, and free to be. Produced by Mike Brown in partnership with ABF Creative. Poetry performed by Ariana Santiago.
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    47 mins
  • Is Seen As A Child with Dr. Byron Young

    Is Seen As A Child with Dr. Byron Young
    May 4 2026
    What does it mean for Black children to be seen as children—not miniature adults, not threats, not burdens, but whole human beings deserving of joy, tenderness, and care? In this powerful episode of Say That With Love, Dr. Leah Austin is joined by Dr. Byron Young, child and adolescent psychiatrist, community healer, and founder of DoingItWell. Together, they explore the emotional cost of adultification, the systemic forces that deny Black children their innocence, and the healing power of affirmation. From hip hop and mental health to radical care and cultural connection, this conversation reminds us that seeing Black children as children is not symbolic—it’s lifesaving. Produced by Mike Brown in partnership with ABF Creative. Poetry performed by Ariana Santiago.
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    50 mins
  • Breathes Clean Air and Drinks Clean Water with Binta Dixon

    Breathes Clean Air and Drinks Clean Water with Binta Dixon
    Apr 20 2026
    Air is breath. Water is life. And yet, too many Black children are denied both. In this episode of Say That With Love, Dr. Leah Austin is joined by Binta Dixon—Afrofuturist writer, community facilitator, and environmental justice advocate—for a powerful conversation on clean air, safe water, and the fight for environmental equity. Together, they explore how pollution and policy choices have shaped Black childhood—and how communities are reclaiming their right to breathe, to thrive, and to imagine new futures. From climate justice to civic action, this episode invites us to understand environmental justice not only as resistance, but as love in action. Produced by Mike Brown in partnership with ABF Creative. Poetry performed by Ariana Santiago.
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    37 mins
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