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Scale Point Podcast

Scale Point Podcast

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The Scale Point Podcast is the go-to show for 7, 8, and 9-figure coaches and business owners who are scaling, optimizing, and preparing their businesses for exit. This is the only podcast dedicated to teaching the art of scaling and making coaching businesses exit-ready.


Through exclusive guest interviews, expert insights, and real-world strategies, we uncover the scale points in business—the pivotal moments where entrepreneurs decide to quit, pivot, or scale.


If you’ve ever asked:

  • “How do I scale without working more?”
  • “What does it take to remove myself from daily operations?”
  • “How can I build a business that thrives without me?”


…then this podcast is for you.

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Episodes
  • How Can Coaches Hire Smarter and Build Better Teams with Michael King
    Oct 14 2025

    In this episode of the Scale Point Podcast, host Heather Wanninger sits down with Michael King, executive coach, founder of Teams.Coach, and strategist for both solo entrepreneurs and Fortune 500 leaders. Together, they explore the new realities of scaling a coaching practice in a fast-changing world.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Surround yourself with the right people—because who you give access to determines your energy.
    • Don’t “dump”—delegate with clarity and expectations.
    • Use the Person–Plan–Portfolio method to hire better and avoid burnout.
    • The best scalable strategy? Turn your top three clients into your next nine.
    • Authenticity and storytelling are non-negotiables in 2025—run your company like a media brand.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview

    00:48 Guest Introduction: Michael King

    01:21 Addressing Burnout and Isolation

    02:17 The Importance of Team Dynamics

    03:09 Evaluating Team Members

    05:25 Framework for Hiring and Firing

    09:47 Personal Stories and Lessons Learned

    18:50 Balancing Business and Family Life

    36:07 Final Thoughts and Conclusion


    If you’re ready to scale with soul, this episode will show you how to lead with clarity, hire with confidence, and build a coaching business that thrives without burning out.



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    37 mins
  • Do You Really Have a Lead Problem—or Just a Follow-Up Problem with Tamara Jackson
    Oct 7 2025

    Most coaches don’t have a lead problem—they have a follow-up problem. And that gap could be the reason your pipeline is full, but your revenue isn’t.

    In this episode of the Scale Point Podcast, Heather Wanninger talks with Tamara Jackson, founder of LeadReviver, about how to fix broken follow-up systems and turn ghosted leads into paying clients.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Most businesses lose revenue not from lack of leads, but from poor follow-up.

    • Bite-sized conversations convert better than overwhelming information dumps.

    • AI can remove the “mind junk” entrepreneurs often bring into follow-up.

    • Stop assuming your prospects can’t afford it—let them tell you otherwise.

    • Nurturing existing clients can be just as valuable as chasing new leads.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to Follow-Up Problems in Business

    00:23 Welcome to the Scale Point Podcast

    01:05 Turning Ghosted Leads into Paying Clients

    01:37 The Importance of Follow-Up in Business

    04:59 Three Core Steps for Effective Follow-Up

    09:53 Leveraging AI for Follow-Up

    16:25 Customizing AI for Client Needs

    19:10 The Power of Persistent Follow-Up

    23:38 The Importance of Data-Driven Processes

    24:07 Overcoming Mental Blocks in Sales

    24:34 Personal Experience with Sales Assumptions

    26:09 The Impact of Communication in Sales

    27:09 Mindset and Beliefs in Sales Success

    32:59 Leveraging AI and Human Connection

    34:18 The Role of Social Media and Websites

    39:38 Nurturing Client Relationships

    41:04 Scaling Your Business Effectively

    43:31 Final Thoughts and Reflections


    If you’re ready to stop ghosting leads (and letting them ghost you), listen in as Tamara shows you how to create simple, repeatable systems that turn conversations into conversions.

    Subscribe to the Scale Point Podcast for more strategies that help you scale with clarity and ease.



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    45 mins
  • What Is the CARE Approach and How Can It Grow Your Coaching Business with Jessika Suter
    Sep 30 2025

    In this episode of the Scale Point Podcast, Heather Wanninger sits down with Jessika Suter, often called the queen of relationship marketing. Jessika reveals why word of mouth and authentic connections outperform ad spend, and how coaches can leverage her CARE Approach to build a business that scales from the inside out.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Why word of mouth is still the strongest growth engine for coaches.

    • The CARE framework for creating authentic, long-term client relationships.

    • How to “out-care” the competition and stand out without relying on ads.

    • Practical ways to turn clients into advocates and team members into evangelists.

    • Why personalization, small touches, and exceptional experiences lead to referrals that keep your business thriving.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to the CARE Approach

    00:22 Welcome to the Scale Point Podcast

    01:50 The Importance of Relationship Marketing

    04:47 Deep Dive into the CARE Approach

    07:28 Capturing Attention: Common Mistakes

    09:22 Articulating Your Message with Clarity

    13:34 Utilizing AI in Marketing

    16:30 Building Meaningful Client Relationships

    24:47 Creating Scalable Client Experiences

    31:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


    If you’re ready to attract better clients, scale through relationships, and build a brand that people love to share, this is the episode you can’t miss. Subscribe to the Scale Point Podcast and learn how to grow your business without burning dollars on ads.

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    32 mins
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