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Scandals: Insurance Uncovered

Scandals: Insurance Uncovered

Written by: Theresa Guertin and Amy Lamb
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"Scandals: Insurance Uncovered" is a cutting-edge podcast where two leading women in the insurance industry dissect real-life case law with a touch of mystery. Join legal guru Theresa Guertin and policy pro Amy Lamb as they navigate the complexities of policy language, coverage, and how these elements shape court rulings. These two offer invaluable advice to business owners, contractors, and industry professionals on safeguarding their interests. This podcast uniquely combines humor, expert knowledge, and a little murder-mystery vibe, making it a must-listen for anyone in the insurance field.Theresa Guertin and Amy Lamb Economics
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  • IRMI 2025 Recap
    Dec 15 2025

    Amy Lamb and Theresa Guertin are back from the IRMI Construction Risk Conference 2025 and they brought stories,strategy, and a few conference confessions with them. This IRMI recap episode breaks down what actually matters once the badge is off and you are back in the inbox pile.

    In this conversation, Amy and Theresa dig into:

    • What made this IRMI Construction Risk Conference feel different and why fewer meetings led to stronger relationships
    • How intentional networking, courage, and curiosity open doors with senior leaders, clients, and future mentors
    • Why the IRMI Women’s Happy Hour and the influx of UGA risk management students felt like a turning point for young talent
    • Behind the scenes of Soledad and Theresa’s packed master class on wrap up placements for complex projects
    • How wrap up one oh one and more advanced sessions could work together as a full wrap up track at future conferences
    • Early warning signs in the market, including increasingly aggressive residential and mixed use exclusions in construction insurance policies
    • Advice for young professionals on picking up the phone, asking the questions that feel scary, and learning by doing
    • Why sobriety, boundaries, and life outside the conference hotel change how you experience events and your career

    If you are a construction insurance professional, risk manager, broker, or carrier partner who wants to get more out of conferences like IRMI, this recap will give you both practical takeaways and a reminder that relationships still drive this industry.

    Perfect for listeners interested in IRMI, construction risk, wrap up programs, OCIP placements, and the real life side of networking and career growth in insurance.

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    Have a burning insurance question or a case you want us to dissect? We're all ears! Submit your topics, cases, or anyareas of interest, and let our hosts dive into the details. Reach out to us directly—your suggestion could be featured in an upcoming episode!

    Reach us directly at ⁠⁠scandalsinspod@gmail.com⁠⁠

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    Connect with our hosts: Theresa Guertin & Amy Lamb

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    27 mins
  • Death By A Thousand Endorsements: Unpacking Completed Operations, Wrap-Up Tails, and the Exclusions That Bleed You Dry
    Aug 12 2025

    Just because the work is done doesn’t mean your coverage is.

    In this season finale of Scandals: Insurance Uncovered, Amy and Theresa dig into the messy, misunderstood world of completed operations coverage — and why the most dangerous endorsements don’t show up until long after the project ends.

    From wrap-up tail coverage to exclusions J and L, this episode pulls back the curtain on how “completed” work can still trigger very active liability. Plus, the story of a retired contractor, a forgotten policy, and a six-figure payout that nearly disappeared.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    • What the Products-Completed Operations (PCO) Hazard really covers
    • The difference between a PCO hazard and a PCO extension
    • Why wrap-up tails are only as strong as your excess carrier language
    • How exclusions J(6) and L draw the line between covered and denied
    • When punch list and warranty work can blow up your completed ops assumptions

    Season 1 may be wrapping up, but this episode is just the beginning of the conversations we need to have aboutcoverage that lingers long after the job is done.

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    Resources from this Episode:

    Products-Completed Operations Cheat Sheet

    A quick reference guide to completed ops basics

    This one-page summary breaks down what the PCO hazard actually covers, how it differs from a PCO extension, and where it shows up in exclusions, limits, and endorsements. Perfect for internal training or a compliance refresh.

    Download here: https://2284419.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/2284419/Scandals%20Reference%20Files/Scandals%20PCOs%20Cheat%20Sheet.pdf

    SDV Law Whitepaper: The Products-Completed Operations Hazard & Wrap-Up Insurance

    Understanding coverage for warranty work under wrap-ups

    This in-depth whitepaper from SDV Law explores how bodily injury claims during warranty work should be handled under a wrap-up policy. Includes real-world hypotheticals, policy language breakdowns, and key reminders about PCO hazardextensions and repair work endorsements.

    Download here: https://2284419.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/2284419/Scandals%20Reference%20Files/2015.03.PCO%20Hazard%20&%20Wrap%20Insurance%20Whitepaper.pdf

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    Have a burning insurance question or a case you want us to dissect? We're all ears! Submit your topics, cases, or anyareas of interest, and let our hosts dive into the details. Reach out to us directly—your suggestion could be featured in an upcoming episode!

    Reach us directly at ⁠⁠scandalsinspod@gmail.com⁠⁠

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    Connect with our hosts: Theresa Guertin & Amy Lamb

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    35 mins
  • The Phantom Payout: When One Loss Triggers Many Policies, But Only Pays Once
    Jul 14 2025

    What if you paid for 20 years of coverage—only to come up short?

    Amy and Theresa unpack anti-stacking endorsements: the quiet clauses that quietly slash insurance recovery whenclaims span years, policies, or joint ventures. If you think 5+5 equals 10 in insurance, this episode might surprise you.

    In this listener-requested episode, you'll learn:

    • Why June 1st is peak renewal season—and a prime time for anti-stacking to slip in
    • The three key claim types where stacking matters most
    • How a single clause can block stacking across years, insurers, or policy lines
    • Why multi-year triggers once helped policyholders—and how carriers are reversing that
    • The hidden relationship between SIRs (self-insured retentions) and stacking limits
    • Why the word “you” might not mean you in your policy—and how that gets used against you

    Recorded on Friday the 13th (yes, really), this episode is part policy lesson, part horror story. Amy and Theresaalso reflect on one year of Scandals as they prepare to wrap up Season 1—with one last summer episode to go.

    Key Terms Explored:

    Anti-Stacking Endorsements, Long-Tail Claims, Joint Ventures, Construction Defects, SIRs vs. Deductibles, Horizontal Exhaustion

    Listener Tip:

    If your policies involve overlapping coverage, anti-stacking endorsements could quietly shrink your limits. Always read your forms—and never assume coverage stacks the way it should.

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    Have a burning insurance question or a case you want us to dissect? We're all ears! Submit your topics, cases, or anyareas of interest, and let our hosts dive into the details. Reach out to us directly—your suggestion could be featured in an upcoming episode!

    Reach us at ⁠⁠scandalsinspod@gmail.com⁠⁠

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    Connect with our hosts: Theresa Guertin & Amy Lamb

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    ⁠⁠linkedin.com/in/amy-lamb-ba948528/⁠⁠

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    38 mins
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