Rediscovering Purpose Through Music with Kathi Fran

In this episode of Second Verse hosted by Becky Boyland, we meet Kathi Copans, who creates under the artist name Kathi Fran. Kathi shares her inspiring journey of growing up in a musical home, navigating the ups and downs of life, and finding her way back to music and songwriting after illness and loss. This conversation covers a range of topics including the evolving definition of success, the healing power of music, and the importance of kindness in the creative community. Becky and Kathi also discuss the challenges and rewards of co-writing, the importance of authenticity in art, and how even small steps in pursuing one's passion can lead to significant personal fulfillment and impact. Tune in for an episode full of wisdom, resilience, and musical inspiration.

https://youtu.be/EJrlJslaNro

Connect with Kathi Fran:

1. Instagram: @kat_rocks_13
2. linktr.ee/kathifran

Sponsors:

1. Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
2. Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

Featured Song:

1. ”Wintering” by Kathi Fran, written by Kathi Fran Copans & Wilhelmina Fleur Lavinia Walter (used with permission). All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

1. 00:00 Kathi Fran Episode Teaser
2. 00:13 Introduction
3. 01:41 Welcome and Early Love for Music
4. 04:32 Transition to School Teaching
5. 07:43 Health Challenges and Rediscovery
6. 10:13 Philosophical Reflections on Music
7. 24:39 Creative Process and Collaborations
8. 26:33 The Self-Promoting Artist
9. 29:34 The Importance of Co-Writing and Community
10. 31:35 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Attitude Creativity
11. 32:56 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Singing / Straw
12. 33:54 Instrumentation and Production Techniques
13. 36:07 The Art of Using MIDI and Live Instruments
14. 42:51 Live Performances and Open Mics
15. 45:19 Future Plans and Dreams
16. 49:08 Advice for Aspiring Musicians
17. 50:42 Coda

Joshua David Thayer: From Sideman to Solo Artist

In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Joshua David Thayer, a seasoned bassist from Northampton, Massachusetts. After spending decades in supporting roles for various bands, the sudden loss of his father in 2023 inspired Josh to step into the spotlight as a solo artist at age 50. They discuss the creative process, using grief as a catalyst, and the importance of finishing projects over striving for perfection. Josh's journey is a testament to trusting the process and letting the material guide you to create honest and impactful work. Listen in as Josh shares his unique approach to music creation and the challenges of being an independent artist in 2025.

https://youtu.be/1CMNvWBdM9s

Connect with Joshua David Thayer:

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshuadavidthayer/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joshuadavidthayer/
• Bandcamp: https://joshuadavidthayer.bandcamp.com/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaDavidThayer
• Website: www.joshuadavidthayer.com

Mentioned in the episode:

• Subvert: https://subvert.fm/
• Rick Rubin's "The Creative Act: A Way of Being": https://sites.prh.com/thecreativeact
• David Bowie Cut-Up Method: https://www.openculture.com/2019/05/how-david-bowie-used-william-s-burroughs-cut-up-method-to-write-his-unforgettable-lyrics.html

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
• Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

Featured Song:

• ”We Won’t Relent” by Joshua David Thayer, written by Joshua David Thayer. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Teaser: Joshua David Thayer Interview
• 00:28 Introduction to the Episode
• 02:09 Welcoming Joshua David Thayer & Music Beginnings
• 03:26 High School Band to Rock Band
• 06:51 Early Success and Opportunities
• 11:25 Transition to a "Traditional" Career
• 18:19 FEATURING: Attitude Creativity
• 19:40 FEATURING: Singing / Straw
• 20:38 Rediscovering Music After Loss
• 24:10 Josh's Unique Creative Process
• 35:49 When Is the Music Ready?
• 40:57 Challenges and Rewards of Modern Music Creation
• 47:35 Current Projects and Future Plans
• 55:31 How to Support Josh's Music
• 57:35 Coda
• 59:36 Featured Song: "We Won't Relent" by Joshua David Thayer

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Building Confidence Through Small Steps: Insights from Second Verse Podcast

In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland emphasizes the importance of building confidence through small steps. She shares personal experiences, including a transformative songwriting retreat in Scotland. Becky highlights how taking minor actions can snowball into greater self-assurance. Featuring stories from past guests like Ben Kintisch, Kelly Hastings, Greig Watts, and Chris Evans, she illustrates how simple, consistent efforts can lead to significant progress in music careers. Becky also addresses common confidence busters, such as comparison and perfectionism, and provides practical micro habits for artists. Download her 'Creative Momentum Map' to help boost your creative journey.

https://youtu.be/YwuJLT61-zg

Download the Creative Momentum Map: 7 Small Actions to Reignite Your Music:

• https://secondversepod.com/confidence

Connect with Becky Boyland:

• https://beckyboyland.com
• https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
• https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
• https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic
• https://www.youtube.com/@beckyboyland

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

Featured Song:

• ”You Got Me” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland and Christina Ann Casella. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
• 01:19 Why Small Steps Matter
• 03:31 The Confidence-Action Loop
• 07:04 The Power of Small, Consistent Steps
• 08:59 Overcoming Resistance and Perfectionism
• 12:33 Building a Confidence Ecosystem
• 14:43 Coda
• 15:46 Featured Song: "You Got Me" by Becky Boyland

Songs from the Podcast Playlist:

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