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Authentic power emerges when we embrace all aspects of ourselves—even the parts that growl. In this fascinating conversation with Thayer Cuson Case, we journey from Zen monastery halls to trauma therapy rooms, exploring how spiritual practice and trauma work can integrate to create whole-person healing.

Thayer's remarkable path began with teenage meditation, led through college football and a career-ending injury, then to 18 months living in a Zen monastery. This winding road eventually guided him to trauma therapy after experiencing firsthand the aftermath of 9/11 as an EMT. Throughout our discussion, he reveals how these seemingly disparate experiences created the foundation for his psycho-spiritual somatic approach to healing.

The heart of our conversation explores aggression—not as something to suppress, but as vital energy essential to fully embodied living. "Waking the tiger isn't about making people calm," Thayer explains, challenging common misconceptions about trauma work. Instead, he describes how truly embodied aggression feels "powerful, sexy, and full of life," while offering practical insights into recognizing when our relationship with aggression becomes either explosive or repressed.

We dive into fascinating territory when discussing the unexpected value of sometimes blocking tears to allow necessary aggression to emerge, especially for those conditioned to discharge emotion quickly. This nuanced understanding extends to exploring how athletes often struggle with identity and energy regulation when formal sports careers end—a transition that left both of us navigating challenging emotional terrain.

The conversation culminates with Thayer sharing how group therapy creates powerful opportunities to "play through" developmental wounds in real-time settings. His explanation of uncoupling relational trauma through authentic interaction offers hope for deeper healing than individual work alone sometimes provides.

Whether you're interested in trauma healing, spiritual practice without bypassing, or understanding your relationship with aggression, this episode offers profound insights from someone who walks both contemplative and therapeutic paths with equal dedication. Listen now and discover how embracing your inner tiger might be the key to authentic wholeness.

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What happens when architectural design meets Somatic Experiencing®? Hannah Milks takes us on a fascinating journey through her work as a trauma-informed designer who applies nervous system knowledge to the pieces of clothing we wear to the spaces we inhabit.

Hannah's path began unusually—with a graduate thesis on trauma-informed police buildings. This exploration led her to question not just how trauma affects people, but how spaces could actively support healing. While completing her SE™ training, Hannah developed a unique perspective that blends architectural concepts like "prospect and refuge" with somatic understanding of how bodies naturally regulate.

The conversation explores practical applications of this work, from simple interventions (like adding air filters to therapy offices) to locating retreat spaces in Costa Rica specifically for caregivers learning to receive support. Hannah shares how architectural elements can create pendulation experiences similar to what happens in SE™ sessions—allowing bodies to move between feelings of safety and expansion in ways that support healing.

In this episode, we also dive into somatic journaling, a practice Hannah developed that helps individuals explore and care for their own nervous systems. Using writing prompts designed with titration and pendulation in mind, participants explore their relationship with their bodies while tracking sensations rather than getting lost in stories.

Most compelling is Hannah's perspective on space as an extension of relationship. From the chairs we sit in to the air we breathe, our environments aren't neutral backgrounds but active participants in our well-being. By understanding how bodies want to heal, we can design spaces that support that process—translating the wisdom of the body into the language of architecture.

For more information about Hannah, you can follow her on Instagram @CleverBabesCo. You can also explore her website at cleverbabes.co.

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What does Superman reveal about our deepest psychological needs and fears? Superman isn't just a superhero – he's a mirror reflecting our cultural psyche and personal values.

Trauma therapists Thayer, Burt, and guest Ali explore what makes this flat-arc character simultaneously compelling and frustrating. Superman's unwavering goodness feels both aspirational and unrealistic to many of us who navigate moral complexities daily. His secure attachment offers a fascinating counterpoint to trauma-origin superheroes, demonstrating how stable, loving parenting can create resilience and moral clarity even when faced with earth-shattering revelations.

The conversation delves briefly into anti-Superman narratives like "The Boys" and "Invincible," exploring what happens when similar powers exist without moral guidance. When Superman chooses not to intervene in geopolitical conflicts despite having the ability, it raises profound questions about boundaries, agency, and responsibility that mirror our own struggles with helping versus controlling.

Most fascinating is how Superman at times functions as a Rorschach test – we see in him what we need or what we fear. His character challenges us to examine where our own moral lines exist. Would we steal medicine to save our child? Would we kill to protect someone we love? Superman's consistent choices illuminate our own moral complexity by contrast.

Whether you're a comic book fan or simply interested in the psychology behind our cultural heroes, this episode offers fresh insights into how Superman continues to captivate our imagination and challenge our understanding of power, goodness, and what it means to be truly heroic in a complicated world.

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