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Discussed in this episode: How the answer is in the work, Colson Whitehead, Lena Dunham, and summer camp. Also, we think we've successfully enabled Buzzsprout "fan mail," so if you ever have a response to our questions to the universe and listeners, click that to send us a message!

Errata:

• Sara says Altan when she meant Alyan
• Not really an error but we talked quiiiite a bit about Famesick and edited some out, but if it's still too long use the Chapters feature to escape! First time doing chapters and I hope it is showing on your podcast app! If not, the Famesick discussion runs from 47:46 - 1:08:34.

Some Margin Notes:

• Shout Her Lovely Name by Natalie Serber
• Midwives by Chris Bohjalian
• Pluribus on Apple TV
• I'll Tell You When I'm Home by Hala Alyan
• The Truth and Tragedy of Moriah Wilson on Netflix
• Famesick by Lena Dunham

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Don't let the low energy intro fool you--in this one, we have so much to say. Along with our regular writing updates, we have reports from the field: Corey is our Threads correspondent, and Sara brings us the AI discourse. This was recorded several weeks before publishing, when all this was fresh out of the oven! Also: Corey asks her first Secret Question.

Some Margin Notes:

• The Outrun (Netflix)
• A Marriage at Sea by Sophie Elmhirst
• Man on the Run (McCartney/Prime)
• Heart the Lover by Lily King

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We go on the journey of how Corey's newest novel, Mothers and Other Strangers, came to be. Also: how and if we share work in progress, and Sara's Song Sung Blue crisis.

Approximate chapters:

0:00 - 29:00: Intro and still writing check-in

29:00 - 45:00: The tale of Corey selling her adult debut and why your agent matters so much. Plus bonus weird instrumental transition!

45:00 - end: Margin Notes

Some of those Margin Notes:

Heaven's Gate: The Cult of Cults (HBO)

Forever, or a Long, Long Time by Caela Carter

Little One by Olivia Muenter

Focus: Adults in the Room (Slate)

Anastasia Krupnik series, Lois Lowry

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We talk about if, how, and what we're still writing, and the inaugural Secret Question is asked. Also, once again we don't stick the landing.

Some Margin Notes:

• Being Gordon Ramsay on Netflix
• The Hypocrite by Jo Hamya
• Linkater's Blue Moon
• Welcome to the Moon and Other Plays by John Patrick Shanley
• All the President's Men as read by Richard Poe
• Hate Radio, Milo Lau

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We record our very first full episode and are bad at ending it! Topics covered: What we've been doing the last 20 years, and what we'll be doing the next 2 weeks.

Some Margin Notes:

• Safekeeping: Some True Stories From a Life by Abigail Thomas
• Kidnapped: Elizabeth Smart (Netflix)
• I Love L.A. (HBO)
• Secret Mall Apartment (Netflix)

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We introduce ourselves ever so briefly!

For more about the origins of this podcast, check out This Creative Life, the podcast Sara hosted for a decade, and its version of this trailer.

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