Mark and Carl talk about golf, the prices for the Ryder Cup next year, Carl can't resist a quick chat about the handicapping system, and somewhere Mark does mention the Americans listen and enjoy as everything comes to an end in 2025 and winter golf takes over the UK fairways.

Mark and Carl talk over events in the golfing world and debate over the need for new equipment from manufacturers, the question does much change when a new club appears to replace the one you brought 6 months ago that was marketed as the best, but is now old stock.

Mark and Carl discuss the Race to Dubai, Rory's amazing performance to end a fantastic season and Fitzpatrick's great finish, then they discuss the handicapping system and is it actually fair to low handicap players in the Staple-ford and Match Play formats of play.

The Boys chat about the Race to Dubai, Tommy"s bad luck and Rory's fantastic last day of the HSBC Championship . Carl has come up with a great game and asks Mark some interesting questions to test his golfing loyalties.

Back after a short break while Mark enjoyed golf in Turkey, the boys talk about golf across the tours, What mark thought about the golf in Turkey, Is it going to be an Englishman slipping on the green jacket next year following Tommy Fleetwood's 2nd win on the USPGA tour, with a few tips to help with your putting to help lower your score.

Mark & Carl talk about a fantastic Ryder Cup, some of the positives and negatives from a great weekends golf , the edge of the seat finish that kept us all glued to it on Sunday and the fantastic golf played by both teams that finished with an incredible fight back from the Americans in the singles, but at the end Europe winning the Ryder Cup away!!!!!

Mark and Carl are both passionate about the Ryder Cup and talk about this years team the Beth Page Black Course, The Americans, the behaviour from the American fans that the European team have got to be ready for , and disagree about who will be winning the cup!!!

Mark and Carl chat about Rorys win in Ireland, and the strength of the European team as we approach the Ryder Cup.