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Tales From The PROS

Tales From The PROS

Written by: Michael Georgiou: Imaginovation Co-founder Tech Entrepreneur Podcaster Influencer
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Tales from the PROS is hosted by Michael Georgiou, Co-Founder, and Eric Lawrence, Director of Growth at Imaginovation, an award-winning app and software development company. Each episode dives into honest, unscripted conversations, hard-earned lessons, and educational insight into how to help bridge the gap between technology and people. If you’re a founder, exec, or innovator trying to navigate the tech world without getting burned, this podcast is your no-BS roadmap. Through real talk, personal stories, and insights from the front lines, you’ll pick up smarter ways to build software, steer clear of common mistakes, and choose the right partners in a crowded, often confusing space. Whether you’re scaling a startup, driving digital change at a larger company, or just love keeping up with tech innovation, Tales from the PROS brings you straight-shooting advice and inspiration without the fluff.Imaginovation, LLC Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Ep 86 - How to Scale Your Funded Startup App for Success
    Jul 8 2026

    In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence sit down with Jonathan Maxim, founder of Viral App Launch, to discuss what it really takes to turn an app idea into a successful business.

    Drawing from hundreds of app launches and years of experience helping startups grow, Jonathan shares why most founders struggle after building their product and why success depends far more on mindset, patience, and execution than simply having a great idea.

    The conversation explores everything from validating product-market fit and optimizing onboarding to scaling user acquisition, raising capital, and building sustainable growth. Jonathan also explains why founders should focus on solving one problem exceptionally well instead of trying to build the next billion-dollar platform.

    If you're building a startup, launching a SaaS product, or trying to grow your mobile app, this episode is packed with practical advice you can apply immediately.

    🎯 Highlights You Won’t Want to Miss

    • Why most startup apps fail after launch
    • The biggest marketing mistakes first-time founders make
    • How to validate product-market fit before scaling
    • Why onboarding can make or break your app
    • The framework Jonathan uses to grow apps from 1,000 to 10,000 users
    • How to think about customer acquisition cost (CAC) and lifetime value (LTV)
    • Why niche products outperform broad "build everything" apps
    • The mindset every entrepreneur needs to overcome setbacks
    • How AI is changing app development—and what won't change
    • Why finding joy in the process is essential for long-term success


    🎧 Listen and Subscribe


    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/show/6QkUtrcNllUkqtq1fjlwnZ


    Apple Podcasts:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tales-from-the-pros/id1371067192


    YouTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/@Imaginovation/podcasts


    SoundCloud:
    https://soundcloud.com/talesfromthepros


    💡 Key Takeaways

    • Great products don't guarantee successful businesses—execution does.
    • Validate your product before investing heavily in growth.
    • Optimize your onboarding experience before increasing marketing spend.
    • Focus on solving one problem exceptionally well.
    • Patience, resilience, and persistence matter more than overnight success.
    • Founders should use customer feedback as data, not as personal criticism.
    • AI is a powerful tool, but vision and strategy still belong to entrepreneurs.
    • The businesses that endure are built by founders who enjoy the journey, not just the destination.


    🗂 Topics We Cover

    • Startup app development and growth
    • Product-market fit validation
    • App marketing and user acquisition
    • Customer onboarding optimization
    • Customer acquisition cost (CAC) and lifetime value (LTV)
    • Startup funding and scaling strategies
    • AI and the future of app development
    • Entrepreneurship, mindset, and resilience


    ⏱️ Chapters

    00:00 — Why scaling an app is harder than building one
    02:30 — Jonathan's startup journey and lessons from Viral App Launch
    06:30 — Why startups succeed or fail
    13:20 — Common app marketing mistakes founders make
    18:20 — The framework for scaling from 1,000 to 10,000 users
    25:30 — Startup funding, risk, and founder mindset
    36:10 — Where AI is taking app development
    45:40 — Why finding joy in your work matters
    47:50 — Final advice for founders and entrepreneurs

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    50 mins
  • Ep 85 - Leading Change: Turning Disruption Into Results
    Jun 3 2026

    In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence sit down with change management and enablement leader Cesar Viana Teague to explore one of the biggest challenges organizations face today: leading people through change.

    From ERP rollouts and CRM adoption to AI-driven transformation, Cesar explains why successful change is about more than new systems or training. It’s about people.


    Drawing on decades of experience in sales, enablement, and organizational leadership, Cesar explains why resistance occurs, how leaders can build buy-in, and what it takes to guide teams through disruption.

    The conversation covers his APEEE framework for managing change, the importance of communication and stakeholder alignment, and how AI is reshaping the way organizations work.

    If you're implementing new technology, navigating organizational change, or preparing your team for an AI-powered future, this episode delivers practical insights you can apply immediately.

    🎯 Highlights You Won’t Want to Miss

    • Why most change initiatives struggle with adoption
    • The difference between technical change and people-focused change management
    • Why communication and alignment matter during transformation
    • Cesar’s APEEE framework for leading successful change
    • The biggest reasons employees resist change
    • How leaders can build buy-in before implementation begins
    • Why ERP and enterprise systems create complex organizational challenges
    • How AI is driving both automation and augmentation in business

    🎧 Listen and Subscribe

    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/show/6QkUtrcNllUkqtq1fjlwnZ

    Apple Podcasts:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tales-from-the-pros/id1371067192

    YouTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/@Imaginovation/podcasts

    SoundCloud:
    https://soundcloud.com/talesfromthepros


    💡 Key Takeaways

    • Change management starts with explaining the “why” behind the change
    • Technology adoption depends on people—not just systems and training
    • Clear communication helps reduce resistance and confusion
    • Leaders must address how change impacts employees directly
    • Innovation requires cultures that support experimentation and risk
    • AI can free teams from low-value tasks and enable higher-value work
    • Strong leadership depends on trust, transparency, and emotional intelligence
    • Change is a continuous process, not a one-time initiative

    🗂 Topics We Cover

    • Change management and organizational transformation
    • Leadership communication and stakeholder alignment
    • ERP, CRM, and enterprise technology adoption
    • Employee resistance and change readiness
    • The APEEE change management framework
    • AI, automation, and augmentation
    • Organizational culture and innovation
    • Leadership, trust, and employee buy-in

    ⏱️ Chapters

    00:00 — Why leading change is harder than implementing technology
    01:05 — Cesar’s background in enablement and change management
    04:30 — Early lessons from solving people challenges
    08:00 — ERP systems, disruption, and adoption challenges
    11:00 — Scope explosion, communication, and alignment
    13:00 — Understanding the APEEE framework
    16:30 — Why people resist change and how leaders create buy-in
    20:10 — AI, automation, and the future of organizational change

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    23 mins
  • Ep 84 - Discovery First: How Great Digital Products Get It Right Early
    May 20 2026


    In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Eric Lawrence and Zach Bruno dive into one of the most overlooked yet critical stages of product development—the discovery phase. While many founders rush straight into design and development, skipping discovery often leads to wasted budgets, overbuilt products, and solutions users never actually wanted.


    Zach shares insights from leading discovery for hundreds of digital products, from startups to enterprise applications, explaining why validation matters more than speed, how teams can avoid costly product mistakes, and why discovery should never be treated as “just paperwork.”

    The conversation explores how AI tools and rapid prototyping are changing the way teams validate ideas, why user feedback must be balanced with product vision, and how discovery creates alignment across stakeholders before a single line of code is written.


    If you're building a digital product, validating an MVP, or trying to avoid expensive development mistakes, this episode offers a practical breakdown of how successful teams approach product discovery in today’s AI-driven world.


    🎯 Highlights You Won’t Want to Miss

    • Why skipping discovery leads to wasted development budgets
    • The biggest misconceptions founders have about product discovery
    • Why validation matters more than building fast
    • The balance between user feedback and product vision
    • How AI is changing MVP development and rapid prototyping
    • The difference between solving your own problem vs solving a market need
    • Why overbuilding products hurts startups
    • How discovery helps teams align before development starts

    🎧 Listen and Subscribe

    Spotify:
    https://open.spotify.com/show/6QkUtrcNllUkqtq1fjlwnZ


    Apple Podcasts:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tales-from-the-pros/id1371067192

    YouTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/@Imaginovation/podcasts


    SoundCloud:
    https://soundcloud.com/talesfromthepros


    💡 Key Takeaways

    • Discovery is about validating ideas before investing heavily in development
    • Great products solve real user problems, not just “cool ideas”
    • Rapid prototyping helps teams gather feedback earlier and reduce risk
    • AI tools are making MVP creation faster and more accessible
    • User feedback should guide product direction, but vision still matters
    • Strong discovery creates alignment between stakeholders, designers, and developers
    • Overbuilding products too early creates unnecessary complexity and cost
    • Discovery is not a one-time step—it’s an ongoing product process

    🗂 Topics We Cover

    • Product discovery and validation
    • MVP strategy and rapid prototyping
    • User feedback and product-market fit
    • AI tools and vibe coding
    • Discovery workshops and stakeholder alignment
    • Product planning and development strategy
    • Scalable product development
    • The future of AI-driven product discovery


    ⏱️ Chapters

    00:00 — Why skipping discovery kills products
    03:00 — The biggest mistakes founders make early
    08:00 — Validation vs building fast
    12:30 — User feedback and product vision
    17:20 — Discovery deliverables that actually matter
    22:00 — AI tools and rapid MVP creation
    28:00 — When to move from prototype to scalable product
    33:00 — Solving your own problem vs market needs
    38:00 — The future of AI-driven product discovery

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    24 mins
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