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Tertiary

Tertiary

Written by: Heaven-Leigh and Justin
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Neither your primary nor secondary source for news, culture, and critical thinking: Meet Tertiary, a podcast from two people you’ve never heard of—Heaven-Leigh and Justin—who went to grad school together and can’t shake the feeling that talking it out is better than doomscrolling.

Join us every other week to laugh, cry, and digest whatever we’re watching, reading, and thinking about. No degree necessary.

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  • EP1: ”Decolonization is not a Metaphor,” Theory, Action
    Feb 10 2026

    What does it look like to put your money where your mouth is? Beyond voting, protesting, and donating to grassroots movements, what can people TODAY do to help solve the problems they see in the world?

    This week, Tertiary hosts Heaven-Leigh and Justin break down the shortcomings of left wing rhetoric, through the lens of Eve Tuck and K. Wayne Yang’s essay, “Decolonization is not a metaphor” (link below). Buckle up, because we leapfrog from hot topics like performative activism and white fragility to unpacking the MAGA critique of anti-racism and the Democrat’s half-steps toward actionable solutions.

    If you’ve ever wrestled with the question, “What can I do?” this is definitely a podcast for you.

    If you’re just here for the hot takes (no shame in that), Heaven-Leigh and Justin tackle questions like: Is Timothee Chalamet a frat guy or a sexy thespian? Who would win in a fight between Gandalf and Dumbledore? Should an American Ratatouille (i.e., Glock-atouille) exist?

    Works cited:

    • Check out Brett’s Letterboxd (here)
    • “Decolonization is not a metaphor” (Decolonization: Indigeneity, Education & Society, 2012) by Eve Tuck and K. Wayne Yang (read the PDF here)
    • Orientalism (Vintage, 1979) by Edward Said (buy the book here)
    • Unwhite: Appalachia, Race, and Film (University of Georgia Press, 2018) by Meredith McCarroll (buy the book here) (Incorrectly named as “Whiteish”, sorry)

    Our intro and outro music comes from "Cloud Dancer" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com). Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0.

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    47 mins
  • TRAILER
    Feb 5 2026

    Get to know your hosts, Heaven-Leigh and Justin, and the inner workings of their brains through a quick Q&A session. What starts with covering the who, what, when, where and why behind Tertiary concludes with imagining life as Patient Zero in the apocalypse and creating solutions for all the bicycle training wheels we leave behind.

    Our intro and outro music comes from "Cloud Dancer" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com). Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0.

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    13 mins
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