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The Accounting Messiah

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The Accounting Messiah

Season 1 Episode 5


FACULTY: Ryan Lazanis, Jason Ackerman

CLASS: #Shoperations

TITLE: The Accounting Messiah


In this podcast episode, Scott and Ackerman interview Ryan Lazanis, the Founder of Future Firm, Xen Accounting, and a strategic advisor at BotKeeper. The discussion covers Ryan's journey into accounting, his introduction to cloud accounting and subscription billing, experiences with hiring the first employees, scalability challenges and strategies, considerations about clients and niche specialization, the evolutionary path of his firm, discovering his purpose, the process of selling his firm, the inception of Future Firm, common mistakes made by firms, the dynamics between competition and community, and cautionary advice regarding automation and other aspects within the accounting domain.


  • How Ryan Got Into Accounting
  • Introduction into Cloud Accounting and Subscription Billing
  • First Hires
  • Scalability
  • Clients and Niching
  • Evolution of the Firm
  • Finding His Purpose
  • Selling the Firm
  • Starting Future Firm
  • Biggest Mistakes Firms Make
  • Competition vs Community
  • Caution with Automation and other Sage Advice


Shout Outs:


Marie Phillips, Dark Horse, Xero, Padgett, Crunch Bookkeeping


00:03:01 How Ryan Got Into Accounting

00:07:17 Introduction into Cloud Accounting and Subscription Billing

00:11:31 First Hires

00:14:21 Scalability

00:18:22 Clients and Niching

00:22:43 Evolution of the Firm

00:23:55 Finding His Purpose

00:29:31 Selling the Firm

00:32:51 Starting Future Firm

00:36:17 Biggest Mistakes Firms Make

00:43:45 Competition vs Community

00:46:29 Caution with Automation and other Sage Advice

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