Mallory and Christian sit down to talk honestly about what “spiritual intimacy” actually means, why praying together while dating can be healthy (and when it can cross a line), and why couples shouldn’t act married before covenant. They also unpack what real spiritual leadership looks like — not performance, not personality, and not “church culture,” but fruit, humility, and Christlikeness.

In this episode of The All Things Podcast, Mallory and Christian sit down with their close friend James Driessen to talk about faith, identity, calling, and what it looks like to follow God when life takes unexpected — and sometimes painful — turns. James shares his powerful story of adoption, loss, homelessness, rediscovering faith, and how God used music, community, and obedience to completely redirect his life. From wrestling with purpose to navigating the psychology world as a believer, this conversation is honest, thoughtful, and deeply encouraging for anyone who’s felt like they had to rebuild from the ground up.

In this Christian Takeover episode of The All Things Podcast, Mallory and Christian reflect on what sacrifice has looked like in their relationship, marriage, and walk with God — from laying down career plans and comfort, to learning how obedience often comes before understanding. Together, they unpack the biblical difference between calling vs. assignment, why sacrifice without obedience misses the point, and how love — whether in marriage, faith, or community — is proven when it’s tested. This is a real conversation for anyone navigating hard decisions, surrender, or seasons where following Jesus feels costly but holy.