Kathryn Robertson, Bayleys Takapuna Residential Manager, joins The Better Podcast for a conversation about leadership, personal growth, and building a thriving real estate business.

Before entering real estate, Kathryn had a successful career in the New Zealand Police. In this episode she shares how the skills she developed in policing — resilience, communication, discipline, and problem-solving — have shaped her approach to real estate and leadership.

Kathryn also reflects the transition from sales into management, what great mentoring looks like within a branch, and how creating the right culture can help agents grow and succeed. The conversation also explores the opening of the new Bayleys Takapuna office and the opportunity it creates for collaboration, client experience, and attracting new talent.

Jen Baird is joined by Sarah Wood, CEO of realestate.co.nz, for a future-focused conversation on the changing dynamics of the real estate industry. Sarah shares her perspective from inside one of the country’s most influential property platforms, discussing how agent behaviour, consumer expectations, and property marketing have evolved over time.

We’re joined by Conor Patton, National Auction Manager, to explore the auction process from the auctioneer’s perspective.

Conor shares how strong collaboration between agents and auctioneers helps create the conditions for a successful auction day. He discusses the behaviours that set the best agents apart, common pitfalls to avoid, and what effective communication looks like throughout the campaign.

The conversation also looks at negotiation — the questions buyers ask, the challenges that arise on auction day, and the role the salesperson plays in helping navigate these moments with clarity and confidence.