In this episode of The Bored Room, I sit down with Drew Farnese — a long-time real estate operator who’s spent years wholesaling and flipping houses and is now building software for investors and agents.

We talk through Drew’s journey in real estate, the lessons learned from early deals, and what pushed him to start building tools instead of just using them. The conversation naturally moves into software development, what it’s really like to build something new, and where AI actually fits into the future of real estate and business.

This isn’t a product pitch or a polished success story. It’s a real conversation about adapting, learning the hard way, and figuring things out in real time.

No hype.
No scripts.
Just conversation.

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This is the first conversation in The Bored Room.

I’ve spent years talking about sales, business, and what actually works. Over time, I realized the most valuable insights don’t come from scripts or frameworks — they come from real conversations.

The Bored Room is a space for honest, unscripted conversations with people who are building, operating, and figuring things out in real time.

No hype.
No scripts.
Just real conversations.

If you think you’d be a good fit for a conversation in The Bored Room, there’s a link below.

Pull up a chair.


👉 https://calendar.app.google/JKu1TZiKJNBpeRcq6

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Why do “good” sales conversations still stall?

In this episode, Chris talks through a pattern he sees constantly on sales calls where everything feels polite, smooth, and agreeable, but nothing actually moves forward.

No scripts.
No tactics.
Just clarity around what causes deals to drift and why pressure shows up even when nobody is pushing.

👉 Ready to take your sales skills to the next level? Book a free coaching call with Chris at wintheclose.com.

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