Marketplace ministry is not a Sunday-only concept. It is a way of operating in business with integrity, joy, and excellence.

Rob Patz, founder of Abundant TV (the fastest-growing Christian television network in the world) and Coastal Media, sits down with LaTricia Morris to discuss what it takes to build Christian media that reaches people, lead with transparency in hard seasons, and shepherd the community you build.

In this episode, Rob shares:

• How his pastor-entrepreneur parents shaped his worldview on business and faith
• The moment 60% of his business walked out the door and what God taught him about trust
• Why Christian leaders must maintain the same posture in the palace and the lion's den
• Practical content strategy: hook attention, build narrative, evolve your show
• Why community is the product around your content and how to shepherd it with integrity
• The 1% rule and why this is "the year of next"

Rob Patz:

• https://abundanttv.com/
• https://www.facebook.com/rob.patz/
• https://www.instagram.com/robpatz/?hl=en
• https://x.com/robsgm?lang=en

LaTricia Morris:

• https://thebrandrevivalist.com
• https://oxandiron.co

0:00 Intro
0:24 Pastor's home + entrepreneur's home
3:03 Living your faith consistently
5:39 When 60% of business walked out
8:03 Trust in hard times
9:57 Palace and lion's den leadership
12:57 Wrong metrics for God's presence
16:00 The 1% rule and "the year of next"
22:45 Arrow and precision
24:49 "Suddenly" and the 10-year overnight success
40:17 Hooking attention in 30-60 seconds
42:45 Reviewing your last five episodes
46:57 Building narrative and goals
52:16 Community and consumer experience
59:43 Shepherding your people
1:01:44 Where to find Rob

Debbie Fisher joins LaTricia Morris (The Brand Revivalist, Ox & Iron) to talk about what happens when you give God a real yes.

Debbie shares how she walked away from music for years after believing the lie that she was not good enough, then returned to songwriting and recording through a series of obedient next steps. The conversation covers mission, identity, stamina, discernment, and the real business side of being an independent artist.

This episode is for the creator who feels called, feels behind, and needs a practical way to move again.

• What it looks like to give God your yes without having the whole map
• Success as faithfulness and peace, not applause
• The mind game of creative work: stamina, thick skin, and discernment
• The real costs of releasing music (copyright, production, marketing, distribution)
• Building a personal brand as an artist without selling your soul
• Why live events matter, and how to extend your runway in a demanding season
• A word for the creator in a wilderness season: research, take one step, repeat

• Website: http://www.debbiefishermusic.com
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ddfisher2003
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ddfisher2003/
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@debbiefishermusic
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@debbiefishermusic4503

Find Debbie on iTunes, Spotify, and other streaming platforms under her artist name: Debbie Fisher.

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More from LaTricia Morris and The Brand Revivalist: https://thebrandrevivalist.com

00:00 Intro + welcome
00:24 Debbie's background in music + the gap years
01:53 The yes moment + accelerated momentum
04:03 Detours, calling, and provision
07:44 Mission behind the music + faith country to mainstream
12:43 The real business of music (costs, marketing, distribution)
16:13 Extending your runway: stamina, grit, and support
19:08 Discernment in opportunities and connections
23:26 Personal brand as an artist + differentiation
28:16 Distribution channels + diversifying the strategy
31:15 Peace, capacity, and seasons of life
40:18 A word for the creator in the wilderness
42:53 Where to find Debbie + closing

Some of y'all may not love what I'm about to say, but the struggle you have been going through may be one of the greatest gifts God could have given you.

In this episode, we're tackling depression, darkness, and the battle of the mind for Christians in leadership and entrepreneurship head-on. This is a taboo topic in too many circles, and it is costing people their peace, their health, and sometimes their lives.

If you are in a hard season right now, I want you to hear me: you are not alone, you are not disqualified, and you are not powerless. There is warfare between the giving of the vision and the taking of the land. The discipline is learning to take thoughts captive, reframe the narrative, and return to truth.

If you want help building a brand and business with clarity, and conviction, start here:
Work with me: https://thebrandrevivalist.com

• Why depression and anxiety are more common in entrepreneurship than most people admit
• Why Christians are not immune to darkness, and why that does not mean you have missed it
• Elijah after Mount Carmel: the crash, the cave, and God's reframe
• Philippians 3: pressing on when life gets long and heavy
• The battle of the mind: reframing, renewing, and returning to truth
• Why the enemy wants you out of the game - and why you are dangerous to darkness
• Practical reframing questions to help you get traction again

• Philippians 3 - pressing on, forgetting what is behind, straining toward what is ahead
• 2 Corinthians 12:10 - when I am weak, then I am strong
• Romans 8 - nothing can separate us from the love of God through Christ Jesus

• What are you learning or taking from this season?
• Is there something you will never do again, or will consistently adopt for the future?
• What part of you do you see God burning out as you prepare for the next season?
• What is surfacing internally that needs to be dealt with?
• How does what you are thinking measure up to the Word of God?
• Does what you are thinking align with your royal identity in Christ?

If you want to build a brand that is clear, enforceable, and aligned with who God made you to be, go here:
https://thebrandrevivalist.com

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