A Roadmap for Couples in Recovery After Betrayal (with Eric Anderson)

Jeremy Mast introduces The Compassionate Recovery Podcast and interviews therapist and CSAT supervisor Eric Anderson about early recovery tasks for couples facing sex/porn addiction, compulsive sexual behavior, or infidelity. They emphasize initial stabilization and safety after crisis, noting the betrayed partner’s disorientation and trauma-driven ambivalence and the betraying partner’s need for surrender, sobriety, empathy, rigorous honesty, and accountability. Both stress individualized treatment and the necessity of outside support systems beyond the couple. They discuss boundaries, self-care, and the reality that 100% safety can’t be guaranteed, urging partners to watch consistent behavior over words and to embrace vulnerability as part of rebuilding trust. Anderson explains the structured formal disclosure process - typically taking about two months - to level information, establish shared truth, and support later impact and restitution letters toward relational repair. LINKS MENTIONED: The Center For Integrative Change - https://www.centerforintegrativechange.com Book your FREE CIC Consultation -   http://www.cicfreeconsult.com Pathway Therapy Center - https://www.pathwaytherapycenter.com/

00:00 Podcast Welcome

01:20 Reuniting With Eric

04:01 Eric Anderson Intro

04:55 Couples In Crisis

06:13 Stabilization First

08:48 Addiction Versus Misuse

12:02 Safety And Support

15:32 Trauma Attachment Cycle

17:13 Early Recovery Tasks

19:32 Limits Of Safety

22:49 Trust Actions Not Words

24:16 Partner Vulnerability And Empowerment

26:01 Entering The Dark Forest

28:58 Rebuilding A New Marriage

30:07 Why Partners Face Sudden Trauma

31:55 Formal Disclosure Explained

36:32 Impact Restitution And The Why

41:20 Consistency Builds Trust

43:30 Facing The Shadow And Closing

44:30 How To Connect And Final Wrap

Jeremy Mast introduces The Compassionate Recovery Podcast and interviews Allison Hochman, LMFT, about ketamine-assisted psychotherapy (KAP) and why it can be relevant for betrayal trauma, infidelity recovery, and compulsive sexual behaviors. Allison explains that betrayed partners often experience trauma-like symptoms such as hypervigilance, checking behaviors, and thought looping, and that ketamine may help create a pause from default neural pathways and open a “choice point” that is reinforced through integration therapy. She notes research interest in ketamine for trauma symptoms and OCD-related compulsivity, and discusses screening and timing considerations, including stability, resourcing, and accountability for addicts (often later in recovery). They outline the KAP process at the Center for Integrative Change using lozenges via Journey Clinical, emphasizing safety, consent, medical screening, monitoring, chaperones, and integration sessions within 24 hours. ABOUT ALLISON HOCHMAN Alison Hochman, MS, LMFT, NATC, ASAT Candidate is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who specializes in helping individuals and couples heal from complex trauma, narcissistic abuse, coercive control, betrayal trauma, and relationship challenges. Using a trauma-informed, somatic, and relational approach, Alison creates a calm, compassionate space where clients can safely reconnect with themselves, rebuild trust, and create lasting change. She is trained in EMDR, Complex Trauma, Ketamine-Assisted Psychotherapy, and is a Certified Narcissistic Abuse Treatment Clinician (NATC), with advanced training in sex addiction and betrayal recovery. Alison is passionate about helping clients move beyond survival and rediscover a life of connection, resilience, and hope.

LINKS MENTIONED: The Center for Integrative Change - https://www.centerforintegrativechange.com Journey Clinical (KAP) - https://www.youtube.com/@journeyclinical

00:00 Show Welcome and Mission

00:30 Meet Jeremy and the Practice

01:24 Introducing Allison and KAP

02:19 Why KAP for Betrayal and Addiction

04:32 Default Mode and Betrayal Trauma

08:22 When to Consider KAP

11:51 Stability and Screening First

13:47 What KAP Is and Is Not

15:40 Choice Points and Integration

20:26 Defenses Shame and Couples Work

23:43 What a KAP Session Looks Like

23:54 Lozenge KAP Intake

25:25 Consent And Safety

29:44 Dosing And Monitoring

31:05 Sobriety Concerns

35:48 Integration Sessions

38:26 Flexible Treatment Plan

41:34 Closing And Resources

42:59 Podcast Wrap Up

Licensed therapist Jeremy Mast interviews Roland Cochrun, founder of The Successful Addict, a sex addiction recovery group for high achievers that offers weekly meetings, daily accountability, and biannual four-day retreats.

Roland explains he created the program after finding traditional 12-step groups often lacked consistent, like-minded peer connection, structure, and buy-in for executives and entrepreneurs, and argues that shared goals and feeling seen are key to deep connection.

They discuss barriers men face with groups (shame, safety, format, faith aspects) and emphasize that peer support can be found outside 12-step through men’s groups, trusted friendships, and structured programs.

Roland critiques using the SAST/SDI screening test alone to label someone a “sex addict,” distinguishing addiction from other problematic, and deceptive sexual behaviors.

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