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The Divergence Department

The Divergence Department

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Welcome to the show where two neurodivergent neuroinclusion consultants pull apart the world of work, identity, culture and “professionalism” with brains that refuse to stay in the lines. We’re not here to “explain autism” or sprinkle your ADHD with empty positivity, we’re here to expose the systems, decode the social myths and laugh through the chaos of being different in a world built for sameness. If you’re craving honesty and connection without the clichés, then join us at the Divergence Department - where tangents are a love language.The Divergence Department Science Social Sciences
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  • 7: Standardised Tests for Unstandardised Minds
    Mar 3 2026

    What if you weren’t “bad at school”… school was just bad at you?

    In this episode, we’re joined by our intern Charlotte to gently interrogate the systems we were told just needed a bit more effort. From classrooms to boardrooms, we explore what actually makes learning and working hard for neurodivergent people and why it’s rarely about intelligence, motivation or “trying harder.”

    We chat teacher-student dynamics, the invisible rules no one explains and what happens when you build environments that work with neurodivergent brains instead of against them. Expect real talk about systemic barriers, the training educators aren’t getting, and practical tools for self-regulation, learning, and navigating adulthood without burning out.

    Whether you’re an educator, parent, neurodivergent adult, or recovering former “problem student,” this episode might just reframe your entire school narrative.

    Because when we redesign the system, suddenly a lot more people start to thrive... who knew?

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    42 mins
  • 6: The Mutual Misunderstanding Club (Population: All of Us)
    Feb 17 2026

    Think autistic people lack empathy? Spoiler: that’s a myth, one baked into decades of research. In this episode, Luisa and Kerri dig into the science (and the research that got it wrong), unpacking how early studies misread social differences as deficits.


    Enter the Double Empathy Problem: a game-changing idea showing that communication isn’t one-sided. Misunderstanding happens both ways and recognizing that flips the script on everything we thought we knew about empathy.


    Luisa and Kerri break down the research, share real-world examples, and explore why neurodivergent perspectives have been left out of the conversation for far too long.


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    48 mins
  • 5: Bunkers, bookshops and neurodivergent brains in Berlin
    Feb 3 2026

    Join Kerri and Luisa on their escapades through Berlin, where finally meeting in person turns into a delightful mix of laughs and unexpected discoveries. Along the way, they dive into the accidentally neuroinclusive moments and the art of clear communication — all while sharing stories, insights, and some exciting updates straight from the city that inspired it all. Whether you’re neurodivergent, neurotypical, or just curious about the messy, wonderful ways humans navigate friendship, travel, and connection, this episode is packed with honesty, humor, and a more than the usual sprinkling of chaos.


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    52 mins
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