• #132 The Three Journeymen
    May 2 2026

    In this episode, Geoff and Katrina talk about the social historical interpretations for fairy tales. Using the essay Fairies and Hard Facts: The Reality of Folktales by Eugen Weber, we move from talking about fairy tales using the psychoanalytic approach to using historical perspectives to find out when forest might simply be a forest and when famine makes monsters of mothers. Katrina starts off by retelling The Children of Famine before Geoff retells the tale of The Three Journeymen. Finally Katrina retells Eve’s Unequal Children to discuss how while these tales might not sit well with modern audiences, they might have rang true to the tellers when they were circulating around the hearth.

    Stories Told:

    The Children of Famine by Brothers Grimm

    The Three Journeymen by Brothers Grimm

    Eve’s Unequal Children by Brothers Grimm

    Books and Essays Cited:

    The Complete Fairy Tales of the Brothers Grimm Translated by Jack Zipes

    Teaching Fairy Tales Edited by Nancy L. Canepa

    Fairies and Hard Facts: The Reality of Folktales essay by Eugen Weber

    Mules and Men by Zora Neale Hurston

    The Great Cat Massacre: And Other Episodes in French Cultural History by Robert Darnton

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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • #131 Grand Aunt Tiger
    Apr 12 2026

    In this episode, Geoff and Katrina dive back into Little Red Riding Hood variants in other parts of the world. ATU 123 and ATU 333 can be found in China, Korea, Japan, and the African Diaspora. But while Bruno Bettelheim and others want to talk a big game about the wolf being a representation of the dangers of sexuality, what can we glean from a shapeshifting tiger/old woman, a yokai, and ...a rabbit? Find out as we have a fun time retelling these tales to explain how some "universals" might not be so universal.

    Stories Told:

    Grandaunt Tiger found in Little Red Riding Hood: A Casebook pg 23 Essay by Wolfram Eberhard

    The Golden Chain from Heaven found in Folktales of Japan by Keigo Seki

    Cutta Cord-la found in Afro-American Folktales: Stories from Black Tradition in the New World by Roger D Abrahams

    Books and Essays Cited:

    Little Red Riding Hood: A Casebook Edited by Alan Dundes

    The Story of Grandaunt Tiger essay by Wolfram Eberhard

    The Uses of Enchantment by Bruno Bettelheim

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • #130 Little Red Riding Hood
    Mar 22 2026

    In this episode, Katrina and Geoff use what we've covered in episodes #126 and #128 to examine one of the most famous fairy tales of all time, Little Red Riding Hood. First, Katrina retells the tale from Charles Perrault and then goes into the Brothers Grimm. But she tells their ATU 123 tale, The Wolf and the Seven Young Kids before Geoff retells the classic Brothers Grimm ATU 333 tale, Little Red Cap. As we look at all of these fairly short stories, we're ready to dive into research from Little Red Riding Hood: A Casebook by Alan Dundes, where he examines the history of the psychoanalysis done on this tale starting with Freud, himself. But most importantly, Dundes discusses the flaws in only looking at the Brothers Grimm or Perrault's versions when forming an analysis.

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    1 hr and 50 mins
  • #129 The Devil, Death, and Sexton
    Mar 7 2026

    In this episode, Geoff and Katrina talk about Northern European folk and the tales they tell. Last year, Geoff reached out to Free League Publishing to ask them about their role playing game, Vaesen and was gifted some books to explore. While he and Katrina try to figure out the best use of RPGs for them and the podcast, Katrina has dived into the folklore that inspired the game. She starts with a fan favorite, The Devil, and a folk song with a deadly fiddler. Geoff retells a tale of a boy and his beer (with a splash of Death). Then Katrina tells us a Norwegian tale about a blustering pastor. Books Used in this Episode:

    Vaesen by Johan Egerkrans

    Norwegian Folktales by Peter Christen Ashjornsen and Jorgen Moe

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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • #128 Snow White and Rose Red
    Feb 21 2026

    In this episode, Katrina and Geoff continue on with this year's curriculum project by talking about the psychoanalytic approach to fairy tales. We're talking Freud. We're talking Jung. We're talking Bruno Bettelheim's The Uses of Enchantment. But mostly we are talking about the story Snow White and Rose Red, found in the Brothers Grimm collection. In this story, a bear comes to stay with these two girls in their idyllic cottage all winter. But what can it teach a child's subconscious mind about sexuality before marriage? Everything. Or...maybe nothing. Understanding different lens and frameworks that fairy tales have been examined through is important. What's also important, is to understand when to question at what point those lens become cloudy.

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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • #127 Banish the Ghosts and Welcome the Fairies
    Feb 7 2026

    February is the time of year where we are all sitting in liminal space. We're waiting for the seasons to shift and change. In this episode, Katrina and Geoff are embracing this space and retelling tales of ghosts and fairies. Do the dead walk among us? Are they partying way too hard? Which would you prefer? Ghosts or fairies? Katrina begins the episode by talking about Daniel Crowley, the anthropologist and partygoer. Then Geoffrey tells a completely different tale about a Daniel Crowley that was a coffin-maker and partygoer. Finally Katrina pulls us away from ghosts to talk about strange men that we meet on the side of the road.

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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • #126 Vladimir Propp
    Jan 17 2026

    New Year, New Project! In this episode, Katrina and Geoff kick off their new project and take a break from talking about ATU tale types and motif indexes, to discuss a different way of examining tales, structuralism! Now, don't run off all at once! We're going to break down Vladimir Propp's approach to tales and discuss how being able to recognize Baba Yaga as a villain or a donor character actually makes it a very powerful tool to analyzing these wonder tales. Katrina and Geoff take turns retelling tales so that we can use Vladimir's functions to see what is and what is not in the tales. And they also discuss what works about this approach and what doesn't.

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    1 hr and 57 mins
  • #125 The Mead of Poetry
    Dec 14 2025

    In this episode, Katrina and Geoff journey into Norse mythology. The tale of The Mead of Poetry has many twists and turns with a wide cast of characters from dwarves, giants, and gods. How does a vat of godly spittle turn into a much sought after beverage? Its a winding road that Katrina is happy to travel in search of the gift of storytelling.

    Check out: Not My Fantasy Podcast and our latest episode with them where we talk about Robin Hood: Men in Tights.

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    1 hr and 19 mins