Former U.S. Forest Service Crisis Communication Director Christie Wiley explains how she is solving the "capacity gap" in Texas wildfire protection. Despite Kendall County being one of the fastest-growing in the nation—with 94% of development in high-risk zones—it lacked a formal protection plan until Christie stepped in. Now, through the Hill Country Fire Coalition, she is moving beyond paperwork to execute a 4-pronged strategy involving education, risk assessments, roadside mitigation, and insurance incentives.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The Implementation Gap: Why many communities have a plan (CWPP) on the shelf but no boots on the ground to execute it.

• The 4-Pronged Strategy: A breakdown of Outreach, Risk Assessments, Roadside Hardening, and Insurance Incentives.

• The Sim Table Advantage: Using technology to show residents exactly how fire moves through box canyons and up ridges.

• Building a Dream Team: How Christie used the Incident Command System (ICS) to structure her nonprofit with retired fire chiefs and management officers.

• The "Bridge the Gap" Grant Program: A unique local solution for communities screened out of federal grants due to high average median income (AMI).

• One Way In, One Way Out: The life-safety reality of narrow Hill Country roads and the importance of expanding 30-foot rights-of-way to 50-foot defensible buffers.

• The Insurance Carrot: Moving the needle with state regulators to reward homeowners for verified mitigation work.

Wildland Fire Captain James Estle discusses the massive undertaking of rebuilding Evergreen Fire Rescue’s wildland division to meet the growing threat of the "When, not If" wildfire scenario. James breaks down how his team manages 140 square miles of populated mountain terrain through strategic fuel reduction, residential chipping programs, and the critical hardening of one-way-in, one-way-out evacuation routes.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The Suppression Module Model: How a fuels reduction crew doubles as an initial attack resource for district and national deployments.

• Hardening Evacuation Routes: The physical reality of creating 30-to-150-foot fuel breaks along main "veins" to prevent a Paradise-style disaster.

• The Home Ignition Zone (HIZ): How mitigation specialists work with homeowners to manage vegetation without clear-cutting the landscape.

• The 30,000-Foot View: Coordinating with Denver Mountain Parks and National Forests to ensure projects align across property lines.

• Situational Awareness: Why a "head on a swivel" mentality is required for both active fire suppression and daily chainsaw operations.

• The Rain vs. Snow Fallacy: Why a wet spring often increases fire risk by "feeding the fuels" that become receptive in the autumn.

• Insurance Pressures: How the rising threat of dropped coverage is finally driving high community compliance for mitigation work.

Conservationist and birder Gabbie Lochbaum explains why birds are the ultimate indicator of ecosystem health—and why our current wildfire patterns are pushing them to the brink. From the specialized respiratory systems that make birds 43% more susceptible to smoke than humans, to the "whack-a-mole" history of toxic fire retardants, Gabbie breaks down the complex relationship between avian survival and modern fire suppression.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The Avian Advantage (and Weakness): How a bird's highly efficient, rigid respiratory system makes it uniquely vulnerable to wildfire smoke.

• The Power of the Mosaic: Why birds like the Black-backed Woodpecker rely on fire edges, and why massive "mega-fires" are destroying these habitats.

• Keystone Species: A deep dive into the Red-cockaded Woodpecker and how 35 other species rely on its "forest engineering."

• Bioaccumulation & Reproduction: How traditional retardants (PBDEs and PFOS) lead to thin eggshells and developmental issues, echoing the DDT crisis.

• Citizen Science: How everyday birders are using apps like eBird to provide researchers with global climate data.

• Simple Conservation: Why keeping cats indoors is one of the single most effective ways to protect local bird populations.

• The Future of Retardants: Exploring the shift toward biodegradable, ground-applied mists to protect waterways and wildlife.

Emergency services veteran Travis Abbey joins the show to discuss his mission of building wildfire resilience from the ground up in rural and Indigenous communities. With over 35 years of experience in initial attack and incident management, Travis explains why the "Magnificent Seven" model of community-led defense is becoming a necessity as government resources are increasingly overwhelmed. He also opens up about the evolving fire landscape, the transition from seasonal to year-round fire careers, and the personal mental health challenges of a lifetime spent on the front lines.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The Rural Gap: Why communities far from regional centers are often "triaged" out of government resources during major lightning storms.

• Direct Fire Smart: Moving beyond education to physically changing home exteriors and removing vegetation in high-risk Indigenous communities.

• Initial Attack Sovereignty: The process of building a "Type 5" fire crew within an Indigenous-owned natural resource corporation.

• The 30-Year Fire Evolution: How the fire season has shifted from remote landscape fires to constant interface threats and year-round risk.

• Mental Health & "Re-entry": Travis's personal story of his 2019 breakdown and the need for better mental health support as first responders transition back to civilian life.

• The Stay or Go Debate: The complex reality of homeowners staying to defend uninsured properties and how governments are starting to partner with these "local responders."

• Structure Protection Trailers: How a single trailer can provide the pumps, hoses, and sprinklers needed to protect 30 homes.

Ladris founder and CEO Leo Zlimen explains how his company is using hyper-advanced simulation software to solve the most complex variable in any disaster: human movement. By modeling billions of scenarios in real-time, Ladris gives emergency managers and citizens the one resource they need most—time. Leo discusses the move toward "zero-click" simulations, the psychology of leaving early, and why transparency is the key to passing critical public safety tax measures.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The Mission of Ladris: Striving for a future where zero lives are lost during natural disasters through better pre-planning.

• Time as a Resource: Understanding the "maximum distance" problem—how far can you actually get in 30 minutes during a crisis?

• The Power of Simulation: How running billions of "what-if" scenarios helps first responders make tactical decisions before the first spark.

• The "Zero-Click" Future: Moving from static emergency plans to real-time models that detect fire and immediately provide the plan with the highest probability of success.

• B2G Realities: The nuances of working with government agencies and building the "translation layer" between tech and the fire service.

• Transparency for the Public: Using visual models to show residents exactly how a fire would impact their specific neighborhood to encourage earlier evacuations.

Former "evil insurance executive" turned founder Andrew Engler explains how his new venture, RockRose Risk, is using an $80 billion problem to create a massive opportunity for homeowners and businesses. He breaks down why the traditional insurance market is failing, how 1000% premium increases are actually a signal for systemic change, and how RockRose is providing massive discounts to those willing to harden their properties and manage local fuels.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The 35% Discount: How RockRose works with 16+ global carriers to give money back to clients who perform verified mitigation.

• The Insurance Rabbit Hole: A look into the complex world of reinsurance, retrocessionaires, and why local rates are often dictated by global models.

• Infrastructure vs. Climate: Why Andrew believes wildfire is primarily a failure of infrastructure management, not just a weather problem.

• The "Tylenol Murder" Fallacy: A critical look at "security theater" in disaster prevention versus addressing core vulnerabilities.

• Pro-Entropic Business: Why the next generation of successful companies will be those that become more valuable as environmental volatility increases.

• The Fire Quadrangle: Steve and Andrew discuss the physics of suppression—from removing fuel to breaking the chemical reaction.

• Privatizing Results: A controversial look at shifting from a "time and materials" firefighting model to a "performance-based" model like SpaceX or FedEx.

Dr. Johnny Torgeson, a 25-year fire service veteran and author of Forging Your Team, breaks down the fundamental flaw in modern leadership training. He argues that while anyone can be taught to manage tasks and KPIs, true leadership is a "soft skill" rooted entirely in relationships and team building. Johnny shares his unique "Wisdom Formula," discusses why we must "fail fast and fail often," and explains how to "win the day" even when life punches you in the mouth.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The "Free Donut" Mindset: Why successful people focus on the prize while others only see the length of the line.

• Management vs. Leadership: Why you don't need a relationship to be an effective manager, but you can't build a team without one.

• The Wisdom Formula: A mathematical approach to personal growth: Knowledge x Experience x Reflection = Wisdom.

• Winning the Day: How to reset your momentum with "small wins" when a plan falls apart.

• The Fallacy of Values Training: Why academic seminars fail to change a person’s core behavior and what to do instead.

• Active Mentorship: Why the best mentors reach down and across rather than waiting for someone to ask for help.

• Shadow Work: How teams create the intrinsic value that allows organizations to thrive beyond just a paycheck.

Battalion Chief Quincy Sloan draws on over 30 years of firefighting experience to discuss the critical evolution of fire service culture, from the old-school "suck it up" mentality to a modern focus on mental health, trauma awareness, and vulnerable leadership. He breaks down the three "C's" that threaten morale, the challenges of fighting fires in today's lightweight construction, and why leaders must adapt to earn the trust of the next generation.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

• The 3 C's: How Confirmation Bias, Conformity, and Toxic Culture can undermine a firehouse.

• Trauma as an Injury: Why viewing PTSD as an injury, rather than a disorder, changes everything.

• The "Old Salty Captain": The power of a mentor seeing something in you that you don't see in yourself.

• Modern Fire Dynamics: How cheaper building materials and lightweight construction have forced a change in tactics.

• Risk Analysis: The crucial difference between risking a lot for a savable life versus risking nothing for property that is already gone.

• Generational Shift: Why today's recruits demand trust and communication before they will blindly follow orders.

• The Palisades Reality: A candid look at the limitations of fire resources during major WUI events and the need for realistic public expectations.