Part 2: Around 66 million years ago an enormous asteroid barrelled into the earth and wiped out ichthyosaurs, pterosaurs, and dinosaurs*. Debate has raged back and forth as to whether the dinosaurs were already in decline before this mass extinction or were still going strong. This week, Susie and Rob are joined by Prof. Steve Brusatte to take a look at what vertebrates were doing just before the asteroid hit. In part 2 we discuss what would have happened if the asteroid had missed, Steve's new upcoming book, Jurassic World, and Nannotyrannus.

*except birds of course.

Widescreen artwork by Natalia Jagielska

Around 66 million years ago an enormous asteroid barreled into the earth and wiped out icthyosaurs, pterosaurs, and dinosaurs*. Debate has raged back and forth as to whether the dinosaurs were already in decline before this mass extinction or were still going strong. This week, Susie and Rob are joined by Prof. Steve Brusatte to take a look at what vertebrates were doing just before the asteroid hit. We discuss his new paper on fossil vertebrates from New Mexico, its implications for scenarios of dinosaur evolution and extinction, and what is life is like for a working palaeontologist, digging up Cretaceous fossils.

This week's paper is "Late-surviving New Mexican dinosaurs illuminate high end-Cretaceous diversity and provinciality" by Andrew Flynn, Steve Brusatte and colleagues, published in Science in October 2025. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.adw3282

*except birds of course.

Widescreen artwork by Natalia Jagielska

Artificial Intelligence seems to be changing everything, everywhere, all at once. But how will the science of studying the very old be transformed by the technology of the new? In this episode Susie and Rob take a look at the risks and opportunities for palaeontology with the application of AI: palAIontology. Can we use AI to find, identify, and classify fossils?

The paper's discussed this week are: "Artificial intelligence in paleontology" by Congyu Yu and colleagues published in Earth Science Reviews May 2024 https://doi.org/10.1016/j.earscirev.2024.104765 and "Early humans and the balance of power: Homo habilis as prey" by Marina Vegara-Riquelme and colleagues published in Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences in September 2025 https://doi.org/10.1111/nyas.15321